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| Quote ="Large Paws"Then, have the good grace to accept that, some, will write good things about him, because that's how they viewed him.'"
I do, as you should have the good grace to accept that I am as entitled to voice my opinion as anyone else.
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| Quote ="IR80"I do, as you should have the good grace to accept that I am as entitled to voice my opinion as anyone else.'"
I do, but, he's gone, and, in the end I was hoping he would.
So perhaps we should accept that those who are tasked with writing articles for the press, will probably write good things and not damning ones.
For now, we should all focus on getting through the next few weeks, and then hopefully finding the right person to take us forward.
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| Quote ="Large Paws"I do.'"
as you say, we can all move on now. There are certainly more pressing issues in the world (sadly) right now.
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| Interesting piece from Ellis and for me seems Radford had been a dead man walking [url=https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/lee-radfords-reign-reached-sad-inevitable-ending-hull-fc-gareth-ellis-2451438read it here[/url. Gives the picture of things not being right and the team from fractured.
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| Quote ="IR80"as you say, we can all move on now. '"
Definitely time to move on even though it could be a long, long time before we get our hands on another piece of silverware.
Hopefully we might sneak something in the next 10/20 years if the rugby gods are shining on us.
We live in hope.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Definitely time to move on even though it could be a long, long time before we get our hands on another piece of silverware.
Hopefully we might sneak something in the next 10/20 years if the rugby gods are shining on us.
We live in hope.'"
Are you being sarcastic or do you genuinely believe that without Radford at the helm we're doomed, cast aside into the RL wilderness, never to witness another final?
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| With that right coach, this squad should win something over the next two years.
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| Quote ="Dave K."With that right coach, this squad should win something over the next two years.'"
I agree with you Dave. We have a fantastic squad.
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| Quote ="Dave K."With that right coach, this squad should win something over the next two years.'"
Exactly, as I've said on another thread somewhere a perfect example is St's, under Holbrook they were way ahead of any team and the epitome of consistency with low error and high completion rates playing attractive rugby. The exact same playing squad remains in place but a different Coach in Woolf, yet that exact same squad of players are not at the same levels as they were under Holbrook making much greater errors that they weren't before and an increase in their indiscipline.
Which goes to show that a good coach can improve a squad good or bad but a poor or average coach can make a good squad poorer.
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| As a rovers fan I believe hull won back to back challenge cups,despite radford,rather than because of him.
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| Quote ="des lawson"As a rovers fan I believe hull won back to back challenge cups,despite radford,rather than because of him.'"
I agree, to some extent. Though I am glad he got the reaction he did when he lifted that trophy in 2016
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| Quote ="des lawson"As a rovers fan I believe hull won back to back challenge cups,despite radford,rather than because of him.'"
Correct, they shut him out after the Widnes game.
There were big characters in that squad who did his job for him.
I could of Coached those 2 seasons !
Radford should have gone at the end of last season. If not even the end of 2018 !
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Hope it’s Fitz but he may do a Brian Smith.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Hope it’s Fitz but he may do a Brian Smith.'"
I'd be happy with any of that top 5
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"I'd be happy with any of that top 5'"
Would Adam go for another young British coach? Probably a lot cheaper than an Aussie and he’s already in the country. Personally, I’d like to see an incumbent in sooner than later and take advantage of the suspension.
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| I’m hoping the carrot is to big to turn down for fitz, he’s my no1 choice
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| I’d take Fitz as first choice as well
Couple of years here then back to NRL as a head coach
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| Quote ="des lawson"As a rovers fan I believe hull won back to back challenge cups,despite radford,rather than because of him.'"
I think you may have a point. However, he was the coach so i will give him credit for them victories.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Hope it’s Fitz but he may do a Brian Smith.'"
That's a big risk with any decent young coach from the NRL, do two years in SL make a name for themselves then go back, however I'd take that if in that two years they could get us back on track.
If you do appoint from overseas,, it certainly won't be this season, with that's going on in the world.
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| Sean Long has been added at 20/1. Interesting one... is he still an assistant in Union?
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"Are you being sarcastic or do you genuinely believe that without Radford at the helm we're doomed, cast aside into the RL wilderness, never to witness another final?'"
Never said any of the above but pragmatism is a handy tool.
Wake up and smell the cocoa, or even better, have a historical look at our record book.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Quote ="Armavinit"Hope it’s Fitz but he may do a Brian Smith.'"
That's a big risk with any decent young coach from the NRL, do two years in SL make a name for themselves then go back, however I'd take that if in that two years they could get us back on track.
If you do appoint from overseas,, it certainly won't be this season, with that's going on in the world.'"
I'd take that risk of a good quality coach coming in to prove themselves to make a name back in the NRL even if only here two years but laid the foundations and structures in place and had success whilst here. St's have done numerous times and it has served them very well.
Ultimately we need the right man for the job, in saying that I thought both Last & Purtill have said some interesting stuff and the fact they have stressed that changes have had and needed to be changed since the Warrington game is encouraging.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Never said any of the above but pragmatism is a handy tool.
Wake up and smell the cocoa, or even better, have a historical look at our record book.'"
Is that at our longest ever SL losing streak or embarrassing heaviest defeat?
He couldn't dine out on cup wins forever.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"Quote ="WIZEB"Never said any of the above but pragmatism is a handy tool.
Wake up and smell the cocoa, or even better, have a historical look at our record book.'"
Is that at our longest ever SL losing streak or embarrassing heaviest defeat?
He couldn't dine out on cup wins forever.'"
Lee Radford will go down in history for the two CC wins that there is no argument from anyone. What will also go down in history is the seasons that followed the humiliating and heavy losses, throwing away a play off berth, the failure to reach the grand final as they took the foot off the gas after the Cup win. It was clear from the off when Radford replaced Gentle that one on the major goals that had to be achieved was the gap between good and bad performances had to be narrowed and be much more consistent.
The sad fact is this is one area that LR failed to change infact I would even say we have been more hit and miss since winning the cups than we ever were under Gentle and in the context of things Radford has had far better squads than Gentle had.
In sport the saying is you are only as good as your last game and frankly other then Leeds at the start of the season we have not been good enough even in the wins against Rovers at home and away at Wakey.
Even Purtill in his interview has stated "everyone will stick their hands up and say they were nowhere near good enough. We’ve had some honesty between each other as the last couple of performances weren’t good enough. In fact, what we’ve dished up in our first few games has not been up to the standards we’ve set".
This isnt just in isolation of this season its been going on for too many seasons now yet everything had been changed other than the coach.
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