Morrison brothers??Sorry Wadski didnt even know Glen Morrison had a brother.

Do you mean Hendersons?

Who were born in Torquay.

Im still sure it was Finnegan that started it,as like Henderson brothers he was born in England,but didnt meet fed trained criteria.

If it was the Morrison clan,please accept my apologies.

Not touchy at all. Your ignorance is all too familiar.



I have not said they are outside the rules. simply that having 10/11 non fed players and chasing a macedonian passport is pathetic for a Sl club of 10 years.

Also while a moron may think the application of simple RFL rules to the nth degree is being bl00dy good at something. It simply does not follow.

Anyone could think the proliferation of 2 year contracts at wakey + hanging onto 'exempt' overseas players is the strategy of a club running itself down til the end of the licence period.

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There are different types of exemptions'. Only some relate to Brit born non fed trained. Others relate to non fed trained players who had completed a season in the UK prior to the 07 season. This later point being important when the rules moved to quota + non fed trained classifications. Do try and keep up there.

Im simply trying to establish with Wadski whether it was Henderson or Finnegan that set the ball rolling.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
English pah. We are too cosmopolitan for that in Wakey we like to embrace all races, cultures and all nations the rest of you are just racist.

See, I don't mind PNG or other smaller nations players getting a game over here, it's the Aussies who aren't good enough for the NRL which help no-one out.

Really, but you wrote:

"Simon Finnegan/Bradford -- maybe,then HKR started with Stanley Gene -- maybe"

Two seperate exemption types. Try not to confuse them.

That is TOTAL rubbish and you know it!!!

A good, well trained and coached team will play well in any stadium!!!

To be fair however it is one of the better excuses given as to why teams are not winning everything in sight

I will add your toe curling attempt at amateur psychology to the list of non RL responses made by wakey fans. Implying that you can work out emotions and motivations from RL posts is dilusional

Do carry on if you feel compelled to do so. But perhaps on a different forum?

Back to topic.

The licences were granted in early 08. (So the threat of annual relegation was removed).This has given clubs 2 rounds of recruitment to date. So there has been ample time to reduce non fed trained numbers. Wakey have chosen not to do so. Infact during 09 we saw 2 young prospects - Pitts and Bibb - farmed out and an NRL reserve grader was flown half way across the world to make.....5 SL appearances! Now they are after macedonian passports

It would be interesting to here your comments' on the Stosic episode and also what are your thoughts' on Wakefield having 10 overseas players' on their books?

Careful chissitt, turfedout is picky on grammar. He may pick you up on misspellings and incorrect use of apostrophes.



Having so many overseas players at wakey is pathetic. I find it delightful.

I'm probably get confuddled again.

LOL can remember Chissit giving me a grammar lesson if memory serves, it was i before e unless after c. Oh how i laughed and so did the science teacher who fancied policies from other species no matter how ancient no matter what deficiencies or efficiencies but their conscience and the glacier society soon put a stop to it..

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I need clarification...

are you Racist or Xenophobic?

not sure which suits you best?

Dont see where your going Underground he isnt either in my eyes he has made quite clear it is not the players he has a problem with but the number of them... maybe you can try to taker the higher ground in another way

If players are legally plying their trade there should be no whinging!

If Stosic obtains the passport (which he is legally entiled to by birthright) then he fits a category which legally allows him to ply his trade... if the application is further delayed he falls into a category where Wakefield are full on the quota... and Wakefield will not employ him, that is the agreement between the club and the player.

I am of the opinion that there is an issue here which (IMO) directly translates to " I dont have problem with Pakistanis/ Chinese/ Tibenan/ Macedonian/ Australian/ Indonesian/ Kenyan/ American but there are far to many of them in the country!" - that is racist, probably drawn from a xenophobic ethos, it implicitly and explicitly encourages discrimination against people based on their ethnic origin!

The poster seems to accept that clubs are acting within the law to employ the best players available... yet he still epouses that the club(s) are at fault for employing overseas employees, where that employment is legal I maintain the comments to be racist!

If there are players who are illegally plying their trade... as i the Celtic players, then appropriate action is necessary.

Don't talk cr*p underground. It's nothing to do with the nationality of individual players. It's to do with signing, en masse players who aren't that good but are keeping young players out of a side for the sake of - for most sides - one or two extra wins a year. I like most fans love to see the best players - from wherever they may be - playing for my team. What I don't want is a bunch of 'never weres' cluttering up the place.

Gosh your desperation is showing.



Resorting to accusations of racism and twisting and turning to justify your banalities when other challenge you




A discussion of your 10/11 non fed trained versus most clubs with around 7 and all you can offer is a babyish attempt at playing the race card. Clearly you are spent.

Let's get back to RL.

Still having 10 non feds + hoping for Stosic to become a macedonian national + flying Winterstein across the world for 5 SL games (while good locals are 'shipped out') it is poor. sadly too many wakey fans seek to justify it.

your intelligence exceeds my expectation... well done!

Just to state... I think Marsden is just an old troll who has little more than mischief as his goal.. hence my response... I do not think he is malicious , just annoying! I apologise if anyone else took offence at my response... unfortunately he saw through it!


however...On the theme of imported players... I grew up watching trinity from the early 1970s... when it was commonplace for all top rugby league teams to regularly scour the 'amateur' sport of rugby union for players...

Indeed some of my favourite Trinity players of all time never played the game until their 20s (and perhaps... had the RU been openly professional... may never had played the game at all)

I am of the opinion that we are still (the game as a whole) are just as good (if not better) than we ever were at producing young talent, however that talent is now supported by Australian RL imports rather than imports from Rugby Union...

I clearly remember young hopefuls in the trinity ranks being pushed out by Mike Lampkowski, Keith Smith, Brian Juliff, Steve Diamond et al

I remember the trophy winning Salford side of the 70s being chock full of ex RU internationals... with just a smattering of [iOLD HEAD[/i RL talent.

I also remember the overseas ban in the late 70s which resulted in us falling so far behind the Australian game that we have never recovered...

So... Do old habits die hard?

Is it that we value the short term success (viability) of our teams greater than the overall good of the game in the UK?

Are we just a minority sport trying our damnest to survive in an ever declining marketplace?

Are any of us really altruistic enough to care a jot about the sport, or other clubs, when it clashes with the needs of our own club?

Things is, whilst no fan of filling SL with non England eligible players:

1. It only affects the national team which only reflects in a couple of games a year
2. Ultimately most people care more about their clubs than their national team
3. Often players you would class as no name roster fillers turn out to be great servants to the club and a fan favourite.

Don't know what the answer is beyond clubs and fans being altruistic enough to give up a large chunk of the Sky money to allow the RFL to fund jnr development and marketing of the game properly and thereby having more English talent to choose from.

So after all that are you apologising to Marsden for directly calling them a racist or xenaphobe or are you apologising to everyone who saw it for what it was





because how i see it its not me or others who took exception to the post who needs the apology.

Indeed, and were it not for Wigan, Huddersfield may just have found themselves going down the road Wakefield are doing so now.

Really



We have signed 3 players directly from Wigan. (others may have started there but been through several clubs).

Last season wakey had 3 players signed directly from Leigh (Moore / Bibey / Henderson) and 3 directly from Huddersfield (George, Drew , Snitch). I assume if it was not for Leigh and Huddersfield your club would resort to fielding only overseas players? HTH