You are an idiot.

it was a very poor final, but lets be honest if your team won that final would you care?...i wouldnt

They're were all superleague teams the last time I checked?.. With the exception of leigh of course. Not our fault the standard is so low. There was no arguements in 2011 when we beat saints wire and leeds to win the trophy..



The game was crap yesterday, Off course it was, But I genuinely didn't expect anything different, it's typical of Rugby League fans to just do nothing but moan about the sport that they "love".

Hull were absolutely dire and Wigan just went through the motions and did what they needed to do.


There was about 20 minutes of torrential rain last year btw and then the sun came back out... absolutely nothing like the game yesterday.

Agreed. What a totally pointless point he was trying to make. Catalan were knocked out. Yet should have played for the reason of being French. Why not saints Warrington Doncaster Wrexham in fact anyone who was not good enough to make the final.

I am a fair weather CC final fan and as soon as it was decided that it was Wigan v FC there was not an offer in the world that would have got me there!

In response to the original question, without doubt it's the worst cup final I've ever seen. I've no doubt Hull will be moaning about the ball as an excuse for their appalling handling, but a lot of the dropped ball bounced straight off chests, arms, shoulders without even touching a players hands. I found it embarrassing to watch to be honest.

I remember a spell of heavy rain in both the previous finals. On each occasion Leeds had been trailing, but lifted their game during the rain and brought the scores closer.

Yesterday's rain was heavier during the schools final and there was more skill in that match than the stars served up later. Is the Wycombe loose forward with an academy? He was putting in great hits and scored four times.

As a neutral what you want most of all is a competitive game.

At the match i genuinely thought it was competitive, i spent most of the second half waiting for Hull to do something because they had to at some point. I didn't really feel comfortable until about 4 mins to go and only started celebrating when Sam scored. I thought it was a tense and exciting final played in dreadful conditions (there were football games abandoned in the capital).

However, having watch the game at home without the tension, for the neutral it was a poor game, nowhere near as bad as some are suggesting. It must have been incredibly frustrating for the Hull fans. Tactically we got it spot on, for them i thought Miller froze and we forced Holdsworth to make over 30 tackles, those combined contributed massively to the result. Defences were certainly on top, in those conditions they usually are as it's harder to attack therefore easier to defend. There was a Leeds fan in front of me (nice lady BTW), she commented after about 60 how poor the game was, i replied if Hull had taken the 3 easily kickable penalties and it was 8 - 6 instead of 8 nil what would you think then? As a spectacle all it needed was a few points from Hull and you have a very different perspective of the game.

You missed my point. I didn't say that Catalans should have played because they were French. I mentioned the fact that they were French as a bonus, giving an international flavor to the event. The main reason why Catalans would have been more worthy opponents is that, at full strength, they would have served up a much more competitive attack than what the Hull Dropsies were able to mount, and thus made the game more entertaining for all and sundry.

Just watching back on iplayer now. The defensive speed and reads that Hull manage are immense! OK, there was too much dropped ball, some of which can be attributed to weather and some to big game nerves, but how anyone can not appreciate the clinical and brutal defence on display is beyond me and I've no doubt it is indicative of the type of fan who thinks lots of points on the board are all that's needed for "entertainment". There is more than one dimension to rugby league, try to enjoy them all you miserable gets!

True, but that was half the problem, Hull were dire, they looked completely incapable of scoring!

I'm a Hull KR fan, I have no anti-Wigan agenda (apart touch in-goal tries

) and I was obviously pleased that Wigan won yesterday, well, pleased that Hull lost to be more precise. But I'm also a RL fan and I want to see good, skillful, open games. Unfortunately yesterdays game was dross.

For me the most embarrassing part is that Hull KR managed to lose to Hull FC a few weeks ago

I don't think that it's a coincidence that Wigan fans thought it was ok, everybody else thought it was crap...

Everyone? Or a handful of "fans" who never have anything positive to say about the sport ever, let alone a Wigan success? It might not have been a classic in sunny weather with free flowing rugby but anyone saying it was the worst ever is embarrassing their self. There was plenty to like if you actually like rugby league rather than just liking tries.

Really? If you take away the Wigan fans happy at a win and the KR fans happy at an FC loss, the consensus is that that was the worst cc final in living memory.

It was, just accept it, taking the stance it wasn't is more embarrassing.
It's nothing to do with it being Wigan, I've seen some cracking entertaining finals involving Wigan.

It was garbage, the defending wasn't that good as both teams just played 5daak or coughed up.

your talking nonsense i cant remember the last time we had some much possession in the opposition half or even 20 meters and not score more and we kept them to nil.

hull was battered by our defense and in the second half they was gone and then started coughing up the ball.

The only thing I can remember from the game was the Charnley chase back end dislodging the ball and thats about it.

Can you give us the "plenty of likes" during the match, as a rugby fan I,m struggling on this one.

Don't let the league leader shield go to your head champ, of course you would be celebrating if you had just won the challenge cup i would even say your attendance would go up just like a couple years ago with warrington.

Pretty much anyone bar Wigan RL fans that I've read/heard, including pundits, commentators, friends, journalists have described the game in a negative light. Let me pick out a few quotes for you from the media:

"error-strewn contest"
"game effectively ruined by the weather"
"let down by their handling at too many key moments"
"both teams adopting safety-first tactics because of the conditions and errors commonplace"
"The unforced errors piled up as Hull tried to stage a late revival"
"hapless, error-strewn game at Wembley today"
"arguably the worst ever showpiece"
"disappointing final, which failed miserably to live up to the classic of 1985"

So basically, if you like lots of spilt ball and one man drives, it was the game for you. Or maybe it's because you're a Wigan fan.

Don't get me wrong, I love RL, but I'm not going to big up a crap game.

The consensus of RLFans, that bastion of rugby league positivity.



The defending was great. Hull had done their homework and shut us down with near perfection. Any game in which the defence shuts down practically all avenues of attack will be lamented as crap by lots of people, because sadly lots of people don't like to see great defence, they like to see basketball end to end scorefests.

What was the completion rates? I thought both teams attacks looked stunted and unimaginative. Little block play and far far too much turn over ball. One of the worst games I've seen in years.

I'm not bigging it up, but I am laughing at the idea that it was the worst final ever with no positives. Watch Hull come out of the blocks in defence and read our attack, watch them defend a ridiculous amount of sets on their own line after drop out after drop out. The irony is that if the defence hadn't been as good, people would have felt more entertained.

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What a load of crap!!!

I love to watch a good tight game, I remember Hull KR vs Wigan at Craven Park which ended 6-4 to Wigan, GB beating aus 8-4 at Wembley. I also remember Hull KR losing at home 1-0 to Barrow which wasn't quite so enjoyable.

And yes, Hull defended well, but their attack was abysmal. Wigan did just enough to win, I'm sure if Hull did manage to score, which was very unlikely seeing as they couldn't keep hold of the ball for more than a few tackles, Wigan would have upped the tempo. Wigan had the game well under control and Hull couldn't do anything about it.

Will you accept that Warrington have the largest contingent of thugs in super league? Are you honest enough to admit that, or are you touchy?

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