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| Quote ="J.T"He came through the Wakey academy and was moved on for off the field issues. I think it was pretty much a given that he was going to start the Exiles game before he got injured.'"
he didnt come through the wakefield academy. He played for them. There is more to youth development than simply having a player at some stage play for your academy.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Danny Brough managed to play for 4 different clubs before he played for Wakefield, He has never played an England international yet is somehow a first choice international developed by Wakefield. Interestingly strange standard you have.'"
Do you pride yourself on being an hole
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"is that a comparable to list in any way to Smith, Scruton, Bailey, Mcguire, Burrow, Diskin, Calderwood, Carvell, Hall, ablett and youngsters now playing regular SL rugby like BJB, Watkins, McShane, Clarkson, Burgess
or Tomkins, Oloughlin, Goulding, Brown, Robinson, Wild, Tomkins, and youngsters playing regular SL rugby like Farrell, Mossop, Tuson, Marsh, Charnley?
If not, then it isnt 'strong' is it. In a relative comparison it looks pretty 'weak''"
It's certainly better than a number of clubs but if it suits you to name Leeds, Wigan & Sts then knock yourself you clown
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| Quote ="The Clan"Do you pride yourself on being an booty hole'" Do you pride yourself on your imaginative and witty insults?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"he didnt come through the wakefield academy. He played for them. There is more to youth development than simply having a player at some stage play for your academy.'"
You are clueless but the really funny thing is you think you know what you're talking about
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| Quote ="The Clan"It's certainly better than a number of clubs but if it suits you to name Leeds, Wigan & Sts then knock yourself you clown'"
Yes, it kind of does suit to name clubs which are strong in youth development as strong in youth development. If i didnt name clubs which were strong in youth development it clearly couldnt be a list of clubs strong in youth development could it?
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| Quote ="The Clan"You are clueless but the really funny thing is you think you know what you're talking about'"
you really are struggling to present any kind of argument arent you. Its almost sweet in a way that you clearly believe it whole heartedly but cannot present any evidence or even a cogent or coherent argument to defend your stand point. Simply insults and meaningless statements.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Do you pride yourself on your imaginative and witty insults?'"
No but I do pride myself on not suffering fools
Goodbye
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"you really are struggling to present any kind of argument arent you. Its almost sweet in a way that you clearly believe it whole heartedly but cannot present any evidence or even a cogent or coherent argument to defend your stand point. Simply insults and meaningless statements.'"
It's almost ' sweet ' , what a pr1(k
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| Quote ="Starbug"It's almost ' sweet ' , what a pr1(k'" aww starry. That really hurts.
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| Quote ="The Clan"No but I do pride myself on not suffering fools
Goodbye'"
what a strange thing to be proud of.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"aww starry. That really hurts.'"
They say the truth hurts
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| Quote ="Starbug"They say the truth hurts'"
Is that why you are still so upset about the RFL saying Crusaders were a better bet than Leigh 3 years ago?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Is that why you are still so upset about the RFL saying Crusaders were a better bet than Leigh 3 years ago?'"
We were discussing the truth
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| Quote ="Starbug"We were discussing the truth'"
Which is why I asked.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Is that why you are still so upset about the RFL saying Crusaders were a better bet than Leigh 3 years ago?'"
Cost 'em some dosh that decision hasn't it?
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| Quote ="littlerich"Cost 'em some dosh that decision hasn't it?
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They are just keeping the money safe for the RFL.
You cant trust the banks these days and its not like they are losing out on a heap of interest.
We should be thanking those kindly Welshmen for acting as our fiduciary for such a small cost.
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| Quote ="Wadski"What do you mean? Wakefield is awash with SL quality stadia. The one at Thornes Park, the one attached to the YCC Ground at Durkar. The newest one at Newmarket.'"
*YAWN* another top post martin, keep em coming
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| with all the experts on these threads I am suprised Rugby League isn't the biggest, most vibrant and popular sport on the planet...
at least Andrew Glover is backing up his 'rhetoric' with money and sound business accumen... I am looking hard (with bitter experience from past Trinity owners) at his plans... and he is tying the RL in knots....
the ground as an example... the improvements will make Trinity a b grade stadium (just short of A grade compliance)... if thats not good enough there is a 4 year contract agreed with Oakwell (an grade A facility!)... the plans for newmarket are costed and fully funded, and literally no-one expects the PI to go against the development which will be a huge and significant sports and education complex right in the middle of west Yorkshire (which goes way beyond A grade)... Wakefield is a city team... one of the aims in setting up SL was a newtwork of city teams... the new owners have guarenteed full salary cap expediture next season and beyond ... with a business plan and finances to back it up... the club are (at their own expense) advertising on television... which the whole game benefits from... since the takeover the income vs expenditure sheets show the club running at a profit, and new revenue streams are being introduced constantly... the club (as a superleageue entity have become an integral part of the cities community, supporting learning and development opportunities across scores of schools in the area, including excellent scholarship schemes for young players... a new retail outlet is opening in the Trinity walk shopping centre... with guarenteed presence for rugby league sales in a major shopping centre.. like it or not the youth set up is first class... and is producing real talent for the game, some are better... most are not!... membership and attendances are up, significantly... and growing weekly... bridges with local business (including press) which were once very poor are being re-built with openness and honesty. The new club even managed to attract around 1500 people to a hotel on the outskirts of the city for a news conference!! There is a new sense of optimism in the City of Wakefield and Trinity sit as a central pillar to that... considering the removal of the SL franchise is far, FAR more than a decision to demote a rugby club to a lower playing division (and that statement does not just apply to WTRLFC) it WILL have far reaching impact on the community and city either positively (retain franchise) or negatively!
And sitting in the background is the rumour which wont die ... that several more, very rich backers will be joining the board for next year...
Wakefield Trinity were a very poorly run SuperLeague club for years.... my ascertation is that they are currently one of the healthiest and best run... and that will continue now for decades ahead. I take my hat off to the new owners of the club for they are demonstrating a developing business model based on excellence.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"They are just keeping the money safe for the RFL.'"
You reckon it's still there then? Sat in a deposit account?
They spent it before Nigel Wood said "Don't forget, we want it back in............................."
Still, this is Super League.
Super super super. Or as Stevo says "Shoooooooper".
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| Quote ="littlerich"You reckon it's still there then? Sat in a deposit account?
'" Now Rich, we know thats not how banking works. They will be using that money to make a profit and grow.
Quote Super super super. Or as Stevo says "Shoooooooper".'" I always thought it was more like a tswooper, in that weird very specific enunciation old men from west yorkshire do.
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*YAWN* another top post martin, keep em coming'"
a bit like your artist impressions of stadia!!!
And it's with a 'Y'
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| Quote ="Wadski"a bit like your artist impressions of stadia!!!
And it's with a 'Y''"
stadya, that don't look right to me martin
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| Quote ="spook2011"with all the experts on these threads I am suprised Rugby League isn't the biggest, most vibrant and popular sport on the planet...
at least Andrew Glover is backing up his 'rhetoric' with money and sound business accumen... I am looking hard (with bitter experience from past Trinity owners) at his plans... and he is tying the RL in knots....
the ground as an example... the improvements will make Trinity a b grade stadium (just short of A grade compliance)... [size=150if thats not good enough there is a 4 year contract agreed with Oakwell (an grade A facility!)[/size... the plans for newmarket are costed and fully funded, and literally no-one expects the PI to go against the development which will be a huge and significant sports and education complex right in the middle of west Yorkshire (which goes way beyond A grade)... Wakefield is a city team... one of the aims in setting up SL was a newtwork of city teams... [size=150the new owners have guarenteed full salary cap expediture next season and beyond [/size... with a business plan and finances to back it up... the club are (at their own expense) advertising on television... which the whole game benefits from... since the takeover the income vs expenditure sheets show the club running at a profit, and new revenue streams are being introduced constantly... the club (as a superleageue entity have become an integral part of the cities community, supporting learning and development opportunities across scores of schools in the area, including excellent scholarship schemes for young players... a new retail outlet is opening in the Trinity walk shopping centre... with guarenteed presence for rugby league sales in a major shopping centre.. like it or not the youth set up is first class... and is producing real talent for the game, some are better... most are not!... membership and attendances are up, significantly... and growing weekly... bridges with local business (including press) which were once very poor are being re-built with openness and honesty. The new club even managed to attract around 1500 people to a hotel on the outskirts of the city for a news conference!! There is a new sense of optimism in the City of Wakefield and Trinity sit as a central pillar to that... considering the removal of the SL franchise is far, FAR more than a decision to demote a rugby club to a lower playing division (and that statement does not just apply to WTRLFC) it WILL have far reaching impact on the community and city either positively (retain franchise) or negatively!
And sitting in the background is the rumour which wont die ... that several more, very rich backers will be joining the board for next year...
Wakefield Trinity were a very poorly run SuperLeague club for years.... my ascertation is that they are currently one of the healthiest and best run... and that will continue now for decades ahead. I take my hat off to the new owners of the club for they are demonstrating a developing business model based on excellence.'"
Excellent post, couldn’t of put it better myself. The highlighted bits I think are off real importance. We have in theory delivered on facilities something that will be weighted at RFL headquarters very highly. Spending full cap has to carry some weight, at the end of the day this is what it’s all about having, as many teams spending up to the full cap and making the league more competitive.
I would very surprised if Salford, Cas, Quins, Crusaders will be spending full cap. The chances of any team finishing in the top 4 without spending the full cap is very slim indeed. Wakefield are potentially bring another team to the competition that can mix it in the top half.
It’s looks to me that Wakefield have a lot stronger bid then in 2008, it’s just a case of how much a monkey on the back the administration is to them (of course it doesn’t matter a jot for crusaders..but that’s another argument).
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