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| Just got to love the piece in the Radio Times - Christmas Edition, SPOTY feature :
"Kevin Sinfield - a rugby league-turned-union convert: don't let the Leeds hero become another Sam Burgess"
Oh, nothing about treble winning captain then.....
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Yep but it’s not about rewarding a player who’s had a glittering club career though is it.
It’s purely about the achievements of a sportsman/woman in 2015.
Has Sinfield had a stellar season this year, well not IMO, has he been a great servant to the Leeds club, for sure, but the award isn’t for career achievements.
But let’s be fair, it’s very rare that the winner plays in a team sport & the only time a Union player won was when England took the World Cup!
It’s a pure pipedream that Sinfield will win the thing, even though the Leeds fans are being swept along on a tide of dewy eyed emotion.'"
Possibly is a step far that he'd win it but he currently sits third favourite with the bookies and his odds have continued to lower and he's not far behind Ennis-Hill in 2nd in their eyes.
We also know it's a career nomination, but then again is that a bad thing? Is bringing the curtain down on a near 20 year career with a treble and that has seen him be arguably the best captain in ANY British sport over the last 20-25 years not as worthy as a boxer winning one fight or an F1 driver winning in a massively superior car?
Ryan Giggs, AP McCoy, Phil Taylor are just some names recently whose career added to their success that year helped them to the top 3. Even Steve Redgrave didn't get in the top 3 in the years he won his first 3 gold medals, when he won his 4th he came second and then finally won when he collected his 5th gold medal so his career was clearly taken into account and none of his 3 teammates in the 2000 boat were nominated.
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| I'm a saints fan. The guy was instrumental in sending me home from OT gutted 5 years in a row. But I'm still going to vote for him.
Im sick of hearing on here how the BBC hate rugby league (laughable I know!) so now is the chance to do something about it
kind regards
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| I will be voting for him, and I could echo many previous threads, but he has put our penny ante sport in the mix, now it is our chance to show that we as a sport do have a following, a significant following, a passionate and vocal following. One that has the ability to put one of our own to be in the running for BBC SPOTY.
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| You know I was just thinking about some of the people on that list, I.e. Athletes who the BBC seem to be in love with and think everyone else is too, and wondering why isn't Danny Kent on there? For those who don't know him, he is a motorbike racer who this year won Britains first grand prix world championship in I think either 36 or 38 years, I forget when Barry sheenes last one was. He has surely achieved more in 2015 than say Jessica Ennis or Mo Farah?
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| Going off on a bit of a tangent here, but I wonder if it would be possible to use a 'dialler' type system as used in outbound call centres to create mass votes..... If so, would it be worth it for a sponsor or rich RL owner to pay for it? By my reckoning, 15p a vote, plus the cost of running a dialler for 1 night, I reckon £20k-ish would get you 100k votes.... £20k for prime time BBC advertising of RL and then all the associated national press coverage.... Hell, I'd say it would even be worth the RFL looking to fund it (if possible)...
I know it's cheating, but I was always taught 'if you're not cheating, you're not trying....'....
Seriously though, Sinfield would hate winning it that way - but it would be for the greater good of our game.
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| The number of votes to get in the top 3 in the last few years have been....
2014 -
Lewis Hamilton - 209,920
Rory McIlroy - 123,745
Jo Pavey - 99,913
2013 -
Andy Murray - 401,470
Leigh Halfpenny - 65,913
AP McCoy - 57,854
2012 -
Bradley Wiggins - 492,064
Jessica Ennis - 372,765
Andy Murray - 230,444
(Higher than usual this year probably down to the massive Olympic year)
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Mark Cavendish - 160,152
Darren Clarke - 42,188
Mo Farah - 29,780
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AP McCoy - 293,152
Phil Taylor - 72,095
Jessica Ennis - 62,953
Apart from the unusually high 2012 because of the massive success of the Olympics then in most of those years 3rd place is very do-able. The advantage it looks like Sinfield will have is mass voting. More people will vote for the likes of Murray or Ennis-Hill, but they'll probably vote once or twice. Sinfield it seems like will have a significant amount of people voting 10/15 times if not more for him (and at only 15p a go then why not?)
Really depends who and how many tune in to watch the show and then bother to vote. As shown above some years (particularly 2011) seemingly people weren't as fussed about picking up the phone. Often people will say they think "so and so" should win but many don't actually go ahead and bother to vote.
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| Given that there is no out and out obvious winner, and it's not been an Olympic year/year of major events, I think it'll be one of the lower turnouts...
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| Quote ="Superted"Given that there is no out and out obvious winner, and it's not been an Olympic year/year of major events, I think it'll be one of the lower turnouts...'"
That both Murray and Hamilton have won it recently I think will lead to a bit of apathy from their particular sports fan base (Hamilton has dropped comfortably back over the weeks to around 33/1). Ennis-Hill has the problem of their being 3 athletics nominees with Farah and Rutherford splitting the athletics vote. Fury is the wildcard at 4th favourite and really don't know what kind of total he'll get after all the aggro his views have caused.
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| I can't find the vote page, can someone link it please
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Quote ="saintcj"I can't find the vote page, can someone link it please'"
m.bbc.co.uk/sport/sports-personality/35088225
You can't vote yet but you can register in advance. You can only vote while the programme is on live on BBC.
Same goes for phone votes, they give the number to ring out on the programme.
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m.bbc.co.uk/sport/sports-personality/35088225
You can't vote yet but you can register in advance. You can only vote while the programme is on live on BBC.
Same goes for phone votes, they give the number to ring out on the programme.
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| I'm out of the country so if someone could post that on every forum around the time. That would be good.
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| Quote ="yorksguy1865"Athletes who the BBC seem to be in love with and think everyone else is too'"
The BBC's love of all things athletics really gets on my nerves, in fact most TV channels have some sort of twisted obsession with them and they actually believe 100% of the public feel the same. I couldn't give a monkey's. When they pop up as panelists on comedy quiz shows it's beyond irritating, and it's especially annoying if the presenter does the token "have you brought your medal with you?". There seems to be this theory among TV types that if you're good at something practical or physical in life, you must be a natural on TV. Tom Kerridge - a great chef but he's as much suited to TV presenting as an elephant is to flying. Alan Sugar, Alex Polizzi and the rest of the business bods who hustle their way onto the small screen - successful in business but about as much charisma on TV as jobsworth traffic wardens.
Anyway, I'll be voting for Kev.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"The BBC's love of all things athletics really gets on my nerves'"
Absolute coincidence that it's one of the few sports the BBC have a virtual monopoly on live coverage of, honest...
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| Quote ="yorksguy1865"You know I was just thinking about some of the people on that list, I.e. Athletes who the BBC seem to be in love with and think everyone else is too, and wondering why isn't Danny Kent on there? For those who don't know him, he is a motorbike racer who this year won Britains first grand prix world championship in I think either 36 or 38 years, I forget when Barry sheenes last one was. He has surely achieved more in 2015 than say Jessica Ennis or Mo Farah?'"
Jessica Ennis-Hill got Gold in the World Championships, after [uhaving a baby[/u.
That is a massive achievement.
I'm not saying Kent doesn't deserve a nomination, but Ennis has done a lot this year to deserve her nomination imho.
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| Good luck to him. A fantastic career on the pitch and has undoubtedly helped shape the Leeds club off it. His legacy from the philosophy and leadership he brought with him will be lingering around that club like a bad smell for years.
I'll certainly be 'buying him a pint' on the night, it'll be good for the sport to get that level of recognition for a change.
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| Please vote for Kevin Sinfield, make history, and vote for OUR sport. We don't get enough media coverage, this is our chance...
You can vote for FREE once online - You will need to register for a online BBC Account.
You can [icall[/i as many times as you like - the number will be made available on the night of the awards.
#BuyKevAPint - Buy Kevin Sinfield a Pint for SPOTY Success, If everyone in RL spends just £3, the cost of a pint, on 20 phone votes for him on Sunday night he will likely win SPOTY.
If you don't vote, RL will be left behind again. Lets make a stand for our sport and an RL legend. We might never have the same chance again.
#Kev4SPOTY - Please put club loyalties aside for this one and lets show the other sports what the RL Family can do.
Thanks.
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| Right people today is the day. I know in a perfect world the RL player nominated would be someone from your own club or even another Leeds player such as Peacock, but it's Sinfield who has got the nod and whatever flaws you think he might have you can't disagree that he's been a great role model for our sport.
Simply put, a RL player has NEVER had this opportunity before and it's fair to say they might not ever get it again.
People can nitpick and say other Leeds players have been better this year or that it's a career nomination instead of just based on his 2015 year or that he doesn't have the most exciting personality.......but NO RL player has ever been nominated before and that is the worst thing here and its a chance to readdress that wrong. I'll admit when the whole "it's a vote for RL" thing started it sounded a bit cliché. But having heard fans from ALL clubs say that they'll vote for him and guys from all the other SL clubs giving him his backing has really made this nominatiom feel special. Can you imagine Wayne Rooney for example being nominated and Liverpool, Arsenal amd Chelsea fans coming out in support of him? No way, so that's what makes our sport great.
For all the times we complain that the media and likes of BBC and Sky don't give us the exposure we deserve, WE now have the opportunity to do it......it's in OUR hands, let's not waste it.
Mass voting is the key. It's only 15p a vote so if you can phone at least 5 or 6 times (or more) that's less than £1 to get RL the spotlight it's been starved of.
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| Is it just me or has it all gone a bit "Loose Women" with the amount of vote begging going on?
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| Quote ="Barrett was robbed"Is it just me or has it all gone a bit "Loose Women" with the amount of vote begging going on?'"
Well yeh but every vote helps.
If you don't care then just ignore this thread I guess.
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| Quote ="RhinosGrandSlam2015"Please vote for Kevin Sinfield, make history, and vote for OUR sport. We don't get enough media coverage, this is our chance...
You can vote for FREE once online - You will need to register for a online BBC Account.
You can [icall[/i as many times as you like - the number will be made available on the night of the awards.
#BuyKevAPint - Buy Kevin Sinfield a Pint for SPOTY Success, If everyone in RL spends just £3, the cost of a pint, on 20 phone votes for him on Sunday night he will likely win SPOTY.
If you don't vote, RL will be left behind again. Lets make a stand for our sport and an RL legend. We might never have the same chance again.
#Kev4SPOTY - Please put club loyalties aside for this one and lets show the other sports what the RL Family can do.
Thanks.'"
Nothing has ever made me want to go to those lengths to vote for anything. As always, i wont give the bbc any more money then i have to. Good luck to Kev anyway.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Nothing has ever made me want to go to those lengths to vote for anything. As always, i wont give the bbc any more money then i have to. Good luck to Kev anyway.'"
To those lengths? It's making a phone call or 2 minutes on the interweb, which is free.
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| Quote ="Him"To those lengths? It's making a phone call or 2 minutes on the interweb, which is free.'"
Too much effort to vote for something that lets be honest, I have no interest in whatsoever. As I said, good luck to the guy though.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Too much effort to vote for something that lets be honest, I have no interest in whatsoever. As I said, good luck to the guy though.'"
You have no interest whatsoever? why are you wasting your time posting on a thread about it then, you could have used that time wisely and registered to vote for him
Anyway surely you can see the bigger picture here for RL if he does well?
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