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| Quote ="little wayne69"They were the runners up in the play offs, but you could argue that Toulouse the team that came second in the regular season were the second best team in the competition.'"
That's not what decides promotion though is it? Otherwise what was the point of Fev's (comprehensive) win at Toulouse in the play-offs?
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| I just don't understand why folk keep saying such a team should go up because of...............To cherry pick any team is a no no. If there is not a comp/playoff in the championship this season, then SL will just have to go ahead with 11 teams next season.
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| Quote ="Cokey"I just don't understand why folk keep saying such a team should go up because of...............To cherry pick any team is a no no. If there is not a comp/playoff in the championship this season, then SL will just have to go ahead with 11 teams next season.'"
I agree that, it's nigh on impossible to select ANY club for promotion.
However, magic weekend cant really function without an even number of clubs.
How do you select a club not to play and thus deprive them of the chance of 2 competition points ?
The RFL and the clubs will be desperate for the revenue that "magic" generates and it's a decent event.
Assuming that Toronto dont come back and lets face it, they have, partly through no fault of their making, stuffed to job completely by dropping out of the comp.
Perhaps more should have been done to keep them in, even if they had to "borrow" (loan) some players to allow them to complete their fixtures.
They made great play of not having had any home fixtures but, most of the clubs had only had 2 or 3 home games so, this was a bloody poor excuse, especially for a club that had already "blown" well over £10 million.
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| Let's be honest rimmer doesn't know what to do, I'd of gone for removal of Toronto and let the super league vote for the replacement but it's now gone on too long.
Until the RFL confirm what's happening with Toronto for next season it will continue to be a farce
Rimmer show some nads and get it sorted please
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Nothing wrong in him wanting as many UK RL clubs as possible to prosper.
It's the spin and spite towards the "outsiders" that I find unpalatable.
As RL fans, we should all want as strong and divers sport as possible.
"Our" problem is that all too often, RL looks for a quick fix / silver bullet and then has to quickly rein back form it's plan.
It's difficult to think of any other professional sport that has anything close to the number of failed clubs and ideas over the same period of time (SL Era)
Just how many changes to numbers of clubs, structure of the league, new ventures, new clubs, insolvent clubs etc, etc has RL had over the past 25 years. It's not great, is it.'"
My personal view is that rl should use and embrace what it has and turn what it does have into it's strengths.
Turn NA expansion into a strength as we have all seen the positive effects after only 3 years.
Same as the heartland clubs and the French. Diversity is a strength and I don't believe anyone should be actively looking for reasons why certain clubs shouldn't exist. If you have a variety of clubs, certain clubs will pick up the shortfall where others aren't as strong and vise versa.
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| The easy decision for Rimmer is to keep Toronto in super league.
Any other decision is harder as each would have more repercussions afterward than allowing Toronto to continue.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I agree that, it's nigh on impossible to select ANY club for promotion.
However, magic weekend cant really function without an even number of clubs.
How do you select a club not to play and thus deprive them of the chance of 2 competition points ?
The RFL and the clubs will be desperate for the revenue that "magic" generates and it's a decent event.
Assuming that Toronto dont come back and lets face it, they have, partly through no fault of their making, stuffed to job completely by dropping out of the comp.
Perhaps more should have been done to keep them in, even if they had to "borrow" (loan) some players to allow them to complete their fixtures.
They made great play of not having had any home fixtures but, most of the clubs had only had 2 or 3 home games so, this was a bloody poor excuse, especially for a club that had already "blown" well over £10 million.'"
They were offered players, at no cost, by other clubs but turned them down - and that's before Deggsy's act of showmanship. The visa issue was also resolved so they really didn't have any excuse.
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| Quote ="The Silent H"The easy decision for Rimmer is to keep Toronto in super league.
Any other decision is harder as each would have more repercussions afterward than allowing Toronto to continue.'" why should they after causing so much upheaval, it's not just the failure to complete the season it's the total disregard to player and staff contracts, I assume you wouldn't mind being in that position then,
it's all right you supporting them but they hadn't been paid for two months and wasn't getting the third until the RFL moved in you'd be up in arms about it.
All this winding up on here does you no favours for your expansionist dreams
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"They were offered players, at no cost, by other clubs but turned them down - and that's before Deggsy's act of showmanship. The visa issue was also resolved so they really didn't have any excuse.'"
And they talk about wanting to be back in next season ??
Unbelievable
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| Quote ="snowie"why should they after causing so much upheaval, it's not just the failure to complete the season it's the total disregard to player and staff contracts, I assume you wouldn't mind being in that position then,
it's all right you supporting them but they hadn't been paid for two months and wasn't getting the third until the RFL moved in you'd be up in arms about it.
All this winding up on here does you no favours for your expansionist dreams'"
snowie,when the Silent H became the reincarnation of Jean Cappy, the first thing that entered my head was "Twas Ever Thus"
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| Quote ="The Silent H"My personal view is that rl should use and embrace what it has and turn what it does have into it's strengths.
[uTurn NA expansion into a strength as we have all seen the positive effects after only 3 years.
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Same as the heartland clubs and the French. Diversity is a strength and I don't believe anyone should be actively looking for reasons why certain clubs shouldn't exist. If you have a variety of clubs, certain clubs will pick up the shortfall where others aren't as strong and vise versa.'"
Have we?
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| Quote ="Willzay"Have we?'"
Yes, take your nose out of People's Friend, put the Werthers Original down, look at the world, soon be time for the whippet walk.
BTW Earth isn't flat and God does not exist.
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| Quote ="IR80"Yes, take your nose out of People's Friend, put the Werthers Original down, look at the world, soon be time for the whippet walk.
BTW Earth isn't flat and God does not exist.'" and how do you know God doesn't exist
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| Quote ="snowie"and how do you know God doesn't exist
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evidence and facts, as real as the tooth fairy and Santa.
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| Quote ="IR80"evidence and facts, as real as the tooth fairy and Santa.'"
Links please
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| Quote ="snowie"Links please
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I wish I could, but you and i both know that there isn't evidence either way, all I can say is, if God exists, he's one f'd up dude!
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| Quote ="snowie"Links please
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Here is the link....don't know why Donnyman didn't include it.
[urlhttps://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/12273212/super-league-boss-robert-elstone-can-see-why-toronto-wolfpack-pulled-out/[/url
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Here is the link....don't know why Donnyman didn't include it.
[urlhttps://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/12273212/super-league-boss-robert-elstone-can-see-why-toronto-wolfpack-pulled-out/[/url'"
I think snowie was asking for evidence for God [url=https://www.britannica.com/topic/Flying-Spaghetti-Monstertheres about as much proof for my faith[/url
Interesting that, Despit Donnyclutz claiming Lenegan runs SL that Elstone is making comment, which basically says Toronto will be back.
I'm sure he'll comment once he's finished picking up whippet turds.
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| Quote ="IR80"I think snowie was asking for evidence for God [url=https://www.britannica.com/topic/Flying-Spaghetti-Monstertheres about as much proof for my faith[/url
Interesting that, Despit Donnyclutz claiming Lenegan runs SL that Elstone is making comment, which basically says Toronto will be back.
I'm sure he'll comment once he's finished picking up whippet turds.'" I don't have whippets, I have Jack russell, border terrier and a cockerpoo does that mean the common miner has changed his image, I still stand up by the way I was brought up and high high moral standards and respect, something that was bred into the working class now I just see selfishness and greed
I'll just say the meek will inherit the earth
Oh and I see that spaghetti monster has bigger balls than rimmer
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| Quote ="snowie"I don't have whippets, I have Jack russell, border terrier and a cockerpoo does that mean the common miner has changed his image, I still stand up by the way I was brought up and high high moral standards and respect, something that was bred into the working class now I just see selfishness and greed
I'll just say the meek will inherit the earth
Oh and I see that spaghetti monster has bigger balls than rimmer'"
Oh I don't disagree, selfishness and greed are prevelant, no matter what people's upbringing, what I don't have is a belief in the failed socialism model, it simply doesn't work. I just hope we all stay safe and live to argue about something irrelevant when the time comes. One thing is for certain, Stutter or Cringebin wouldn't be doing any better.
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| Quote ="IR80"Oh I don't disagree, selfishness and greed are prevelant, no matter what people's upbringing, what I don't have is a belief in the failed socialism model, it simply doesn't work. I just hope we all stay safe and live to argue about something irrelevant when the time comes. One thing is for certain, Stutter or Cringebin wouldn't be doing any better.'" religion and politics you should take them to the sin bin
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"
As for Catalan, you are desperate for them to be evicted
With only 2 clubs over there of any ilk and with the game on both sides of the channel needing some kind of boost, perhaps, now is the time to be brave and expand to 14 clubs.
Why not Include, Toulouse, London and one other from, Leigh, Fev and Widnes (still too soon for Bradford I'm afraid) and see if the sport get some kind of boost, lets face it, the game needs something after the Toronto debacle.'"
No it's not about me , no need to attack the questioner (there's a team of very poor anglers trying to do this already ) just attack the question ....
I would heartily agree that if Catalans and Toulouse could find a significant TV deal then let's go for the 14. I think it's wrong to have the two French clubs not in the same league. If they can attract a TV deal then put both in Superleague going to 14 so that IS French expansion but not at the expense of the contraction of the English game to accommodate it. That's what I am against not that they are Gallic!!
But if no TV deal put them both in the Championship. They have to be playing each other to really get things going surely...??.
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| Quote ="snowie"eusa_naughty.gif religion and politics you should take them to the sin bin'"
you started it, in the words of John Cleese, "you invaded Poland"!
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Here is the link....don't know why Donnyman didn't include it.
[urlhttps://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/12273212/super-league-boss-robert-elstone-can-see-why-toronto-wolfpack-pulled-out/[/url'"
Because the Rugby League fans on here actually follow the game and read this stuff up. The others just read Angling Times
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| Quote ="The Silent H"Where did this quote of Elstone's come from, I'd like to read it for myself.'"
It's in the S*n, Donnyclown would be happy if the criteria was being within a mile of the M62.
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