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| Quote ="gutterfax"The RFL and SLY TV need to man up and take over a controlling interest in the set up in London......or the club will not be around after the next round of franchising...IMO that is.'"
I don't think that should happen, or is required. Why should either take a controlling interest? Apart from the lack of proper marketing are the London Broncos being badly run? Rather than taking control, they should enter into a partnership with the RFL and Sky purely on a marketing JV. At least then David Hughes wouldn't feel so alone in his quest to get the Broncos the exposure that they deserve.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"The day David Whelan put Wigan up for sale was the beginging of the end for the London ESL club. Ian Lenegan can't be faulted for buying his home town club, but it left a massive financial hole that has never been filled.
I wonder if in hindsight, the RFL regret insisting on IL cutting ties with us......?
The RFL and SLY TV need to man up and take over a controlling interest in the set up in London......or the club will not be around after the next round of franchising...IMO that is.'"
Read the papers. The RFL never "REGRET" anything.
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| 1,829 hahahaha
What a farce!
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| Have you seen the cr*p they are serving up
Thur night, in London against Catalans with a sh*ite side-what did you expect
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| no excuses, this is the elite league
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| We'll be ok, prob move stadium next year, crowds and hope will increase a bit and the whole process will start again.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"We'll be ok, prob move stadium next year, crowds and hope will increase a bit and the whole process will start again.'"
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"We'll be ok, prob move stadium next year, crowds and hope will increase a bit and the whole process will start again.'"
utter joke - where do you propose moving to which will bring in 5K + crowds ?
kick them out and let someone like Fev,Fax,Leigh,Sheffield et al in who can at least provide some kind of serious fan base
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| Quote Fev,Fax,Leigh,Sheffield '"
All who will attract 2 k crowds. Thats improvement for you.
Get beck to the working mens club and talk sh*t there
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| How can London Broncos survive as a business?
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| Quote ="wire quin"All who will attract 2 k crowds. Thats improvement for you.
Get beck to the working mens club and talk sh*t there'"
As a Fax fan i think we would comfortably average more than London if we were in SL, on the other hand im thankful that we are not.I would rather us compete in a really strong division than be one of the 8 or so teams who has no chance of ever competing year after year in SL.
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| Only fax that would bring far more in. About 4500 ave, Fev would look at about 3,000 ave per match.
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| Quote ="wire quin"All who will attract 2 k crowds. Thats improvement for you.
Get beck to the working mens club and talk sh*t there'"
i'm one of you lot mate ! a fookin' southerner born and bred - never been in a working mens club actually old chap ! the beer's actually cheaper at the local Con Club (or it used to be !)
but just enlighten me, what is the friggin' point of having a club in London that no one is interested in ?
you lot ( us lot) don't merit a club in SL so let Mr Hughes & co stop masquerading as the big 'I am' down sarf and let the [ureal[/u RL fans benefit
and stop making assumptions of ones background when you clearly have feck all idea of who you are talking to !
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| Quote ="sanjunien"
what is the friggin' point of having a club in London that no one is interested in ?
you lot ( us lot) don't merit a club in SL so let Mr Hughes & co stop masquerading as the big 'I am' down sarf and let the [ureal[/u RL fans benefit
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It makes no sense whatsoever, from a business point of view or any other. The club must be losing tens upon tens of thousands of pounds a week. No one goes to watch. It's not even as if the side are any good and play attractive exciting rugby league.
I genuinely have no idea why London have a SL side. WHY?
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| I hardly ever read threads like this and always regret it when when I do (even if only a couple of pages). Always makes me feel that many would rather that those of us who want to watch RL and live in the south didn't bother. It feels like they want to go back to the good old days of it being a regional sport, like the highland games or something, and shown occasionally on the BBC as a sort of curiosity that the rest of the country can gawp at. I know there are many who feel differently but sometimes it does get wearing.
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| Quote ="DawgOnIt"I hardly ever read threads like this and always regret it when when I do (even if only a couple of pages). Always makes me feel that many would rather that those of us who want to watch RL and live in the south didn't bother. It feels like they want to go back to the good old days of it being a regional sport, like the highland games or something, and shown occasionally on the BBC as a sort of curiosity that the rest of the country can gawp at. I know there are many who feel differently but sometimes it does get wearing.'"
well, if a few thousand more people felt like you then very few people would be complaining
you have to admit the Broncos or Quinbs or whatever Mr Hughes wants to call them aren't worthy of an SL place then why should they be there
just put the team in the Championship so people in the minority such as your good self can still watch live RL ?
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| Quote ="sanjunien"well, if a few thousand more people felt like you then very few people would be complaining
you have to admit the Broncos or Quinbs or whatever Mr Hughes wants to call them aren't worthy of an SL place then why should they be there
just put the team in the Championship so people in the minority such as your good self can still watch live RL ?'"
Define 'Worthy'?
They passed the licensing requirements above a fair few other clubs, it's like people here forget that all clubs go through peaks & troughs. So look back at the likes of Wigan, St.helens, Hull, Bradford, Warrington even Leeds, all gone through rough patches and crowds that would be looked at as a disgrace. Was anyone deeming them not to be 'worthy' in the competition they were in, no.
Sure, there's a possiblity London may well not be in SL some time down the line & yes crowds are poor at best but to state they aren't worthy is just utter rubbish.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"As a Fax fan i think we would comfortably average more than London...'"
Like last time?
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| Merger ????????????????
Bradford Broncos playing alternate home games at each ground. Save the RFL loads..............
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wire quin wrote:All who will attract 2 k crowds. Thats improvement for you.
Get beck to the working mens club and talk sh*t there
i'm one of you lot mate ! a fookin' southerner born and bred - never been in a working mens club actually old chap ! the beer's actually cheaper at the local Con Club (or it used to be !)
but just enlighten me, what is the friggin' point of having a club in London that no one is interested in ?
you lot ( us lot) don't merit a club in SL so let Mr Hughes & co stop masquerading as the big 'I am' down sarf and let the real RL fans benefit
and stop making assumptions of ones background when you clearly have feck all idea of who you are talking to !
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The clue is in the name you thick southern swine
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| im not gonna mud sling or throw any cheap digs but id so no, with the crowds they get its only a matter of time before they go under (or at least do a Crusaders and re-form in the lower leagues)
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| I love it how crowds are the only factor that fellow RL "supporters" consider when forming their viewpoint on the London club. An absolutely embarrassing obsession with crowds that I have never known in any other sport.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"I love it how crowds are the only factor that fellow RL "supporters" consider when forming their viewpoint on the London club. An absolutely embarrassing obsession with crowds that I have never known in any other sport.'"
crowds pay to go to games and buy merchandise, without a regular income teams are obviously going to lose money and struggle, this is all clubs not just london
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| Quote ="adelaide-giant.no9"crowds pay to go to games and buy merchandise, without a regular income teams are obviously going to lose money and struggle, this is all clubs not just london'"
Absolutely, we are still going though and not having an adverse affect on anyone else, yet other supporters seem to be mortally offended by our existance because we don't get as many people through the gates as they deem to be necessary.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Absolutely, we are still going though and not having an adverse affect on anyone else, yet other supporters seem to be mortally offended by our existance because we don't get as many people through the gates as they deem to be necessary.'"
In 5 Seasons of ESL, we have cost HKA about 50k in lost gate receipts, because everyone else brings 1,000+ to Caravan Park...this is the basis of the east hull knckledraggers like roofs calling for our exit.
Bradford, we have cost 160k in lost gate receipts in 16 season of ESL......the fact that they are another 840k in the hole seems to have passed other flat earth society members too as well.
London owe nobody any money other than our owner.........we have never received a penny from the RFL (UNLIKE THE 2006 RL WCC winners), we haven't registered-de-registered players to dodge the cap and we have never passed around the begging bowl like Bradford are currently doing.......
To answe the question posed by the OP......yes, we can, so long as DH keeps picking up the tab...therafter, without another investor or 7k gates, no, London can't survive.
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