in your map of the world.... maybe....

but we have a club who continually confound the nay-sayers and last season finished a very creditable 5th and a group of youngsters who won the academy league... easily!
there are genuine prospects... with solid backers ... for a new staduim.

we ahve an excellent coaching and backroom staff

I prefer to see the sitution as positive with real hope of planned and sustainable progression....go figure... I am an optimist.

with a squad full of NRL developed players, anyone could do that



The academy league is nothing, good luck to the lads who won it, but that wasnt the important thing, becoming SL quality players is

and Wakefield should have been doing that 10 years ago



how many times have Wakfield said this? you apparently had Geniune prospects and solid backers for the Thornes Park project, how'd that turn out?



do you apply that optimism to all clubs?

Of course it does dear!

why why why do seemingly intelligent posters continue to respond to these complete bell ends? your rational arguments are falling on deaf ears and are a complete waste of virtual breath.

DO NOT FEED

I've put the case across - I won't keep repeating it, so they can take it or leave it but, for those who read the threads and aren't sure, there is something to balance the argument.

We know where we stand - and I'm not at all uncomfortable with it!

Perhaps some posters do not share your views. You may wish to insult posters who think 10 / 11 overseas players is pathetic, or that the 11th player chasing around to be 'macedonian' / 'serbian' is ridicuous, so be it.

For people who have some knowledge of RL taking on 7 international academy lads would be seen as stretching credulity. 7 from a club looks ...questionable.

As a follower of Wakefield yes iam not happy at the amount of imports we have next season. But this is not just a Wakefield thing. All clubs in SL show similar symptoms tbh and it needs to be sorted. For example i couldnt understand why Ainscough of Wigan was dropped after a very good start of the season for a second rate Aussie in Phelps. Would never happen in the NRL. I feel the quality in SL has been slipping for a few years now (from an already average standard to begin with). Dont just wave the sick at Wakefield just because you dont particularly like us because it does come across as being a little petty.

Which other teams that have been in SL 10 continuous years still have 10/11 overseas players?

(when the Giants played Wigan they targeted Ainscough and got 2 tries + Phelps has done every good job at fb for Wigan)

I think Wakey got a couple of tries on him but that is not the point. It is evident Ainscough is ready for SL IMO. We should show faith and perseverance in the likes of Ainscough. Teams across the board in SL seem to go with the quick fix aussie to gain wins now instead of showing a little faith in the good young uns like Sean and looking at the big picture.

Anyway Marsden wasnt it Wakefield who gave second chances to English players such as Moore, Blaymire, Golden, Fox, Bibey and Wilkes when certain posters on here ridiculed the signings? 4 of these are now SL regulars and 1 now plays for England. We gave these lads a shot when they seemed to be on the scrap heap. All teams seem to be trying get around the quota rules not just us.

Doubt he was ready. The point is that Wakey rely on quick fix overseas players more than most. Chasing around after a mecedonian passport when you already have 10 uch players is pathetic.

Many clubs have given players 'second chances' you are not alone there. Which clubs in SL for 10 years have been more active than wakey in signing nonfed trained players?

Yes,youre right,were bl00dy good at it.

We arent breaking any rules.

And isnt it quite ironic that it was the RFL that suggested Stosic play for Serbia,to get round the rules.

So please dont pity us.

I do not pity you. The need for 10/11 such players is pathetic. That you take 'pleasure' in it is no surprise.

yes a complete inability to put out a competitive squad of british players because the club isnt big enough certainly does

thats fine, and true, but surely the worst offenders should take the most blame

I thought he was Macedonian?

you may not be breaking any rules, but searching for ways to avoid giving british youth a chance is shameful any way you look at it

With the greatest of respect,do not use words if you dont understand their meaning.

Just because i think Wakefield are good at finding a way to fit players into the squad,doesnt mean i take pleasure in it.Im purely making an observation,which is undeniably true.

I could also say,Wakey are bl00dy good at getting themselves into a financial hole,which again is true,doesnt mean i take pleasure in it.

I have commented earlier that i think Wakey have far too many overseas players and the game as a whole has far too many.

He is /or his grandad or something,but the RFL suggested Serbia.Something to do with the old Yugoslavia.

ive already commented that i think Wakey have too many overseas players.

My point is,how keen and eager are the RFL to cut down on players from overseas when they suggest ways around the rules.

Wakey have far too many,the game has far too many,but as soon as the game tried to cut down the amount,clubs went looking for ways around it and asking for exemptions,players threatening legal action etc.........

Would love to see the day when clubs only have max 2/3 top class overseas players.

Unfortunately doubt i will live to see it!!!

i agree, and wakefield are one of (if not the worst) example of this

however, the steps that would need to be taken for clubs only being allowed to have 2/3 overseas players (i personally think 4/5 is fine as a maximum) would mean some clubs would be have to suffer being crap for a while and their fans wouldnt accept that

Really not sure who started the ball rolling with exemptions etc...

Simon Finnegan/Bradford -- maybe,then HKR started with Stanley Gene -- maybe.

If there is a desire for the national team to compete on a regular basis with Aus. at some point the fans,chairmen,sponsors etc.. are going to have to take a leap of faith.But there in lies the problem it appears few clubs would put country and the game before club.

The Morrison brothers started it. you've signed one of them! Simon Finnegan was born in Warrington and is of irish decent.

All of this arguing is pointless anyway because you already have his replacement according to Wakies board - Paul Johnson is training and wearing Wakie kits in training and he's English.

Do not try and become the 'grammar / dictionary police' your posts show that you are not up to the job.



There is no evidence whatsoever that wakey are bl00dy good at it. If you think they are then you do not understand the RFL rules

You are confusing wakey's pathetic policy of recruiting many 'exempt' overseas players with them being good at something.

Oh dear,we are touchy,i simply pointed out that you contradict yourself.It would have been much easier to admit to your mistake.

Are Wakefield recruiting players outside of the rules?????

Which rules dont i understand????