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| Following on from his AWFUL error at the weekend should cummins drop James child's from superleague duty. The fact that he can't count to 6 which leads to Bradford scoring on the seventh tackle could well make the difference to where saints finish and whether Bradford make the top 8.
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| Just when you think Childs couldn't get any worse...
To be fair I didn't spot it and watched the game but I am not paid to spot these sort of things!!
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| It's just been pointed out on boots n all showing the tackles. I doubt either set of players or the coaches realized at the time. Potter was slamming the ref and blamed him for allowing saints to gain a point, he sounds a bit silly now though!
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| The funniest thing is that you didn't actually notice until you watched Boots n All, and now you are outraged about it.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"The funniest thing is that you didn't actually notice until you watched Boots n All, and now you are outraged about it.'"
But most of us pay to watch the rugby.
He's paid to ref to it.
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| Quote ="Cragganmore Kid"But most of us pay to watch the rugby.
He's paid to ref to it.'"
Yeah, and I say again, you saw no problem with it at the time, so why the outrage now?
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| I saw it at the time and am suitably outraged
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| Barrow scored the winner against York on the 7th tackle at Craven Park in the Choo Choo Cup earlier this season. I was pretty annoyed then.
Does that count?
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| I never said I was "outraged" I wasn't ok with it "at the time" because I wasn't at the game being neither a saints nor a Bradford fan. This mistake has been brought to attention, national press has reported how coaches have got into trouble for critising this ref, it just makes the rfl look a joke. ironic if agars side is beaten into the 8 by one point by Bradford.
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| Quote ="jools"I never said I was "outraged" I wasn't ok with it "at the time" because I wasn't at the game being neither a saints nor a Bradford fan. This mistake has been brought to attention, national press has reported how coaches have got into trouble for critising this ref, it just makes the rfl look a joke. ironic if agars side is beaten into the 8 by one point by Bradford.'"
He made a slight mistake. It's hardly the first time there has been an incorrect count. There have probably been plenty that haven't been brought to your attention on Boots n All too.
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| every match he refs seems to attract controversy
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| No , we don't want him either
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"He made a slight mistake. It's hardly the first time there has been an incorrect count. There have probably been plenty that haven't been brought to your attention on Boots n All too.'"
Yep people make mistakes, and if it was just this then it would be one of those things, He is making more than most and often crucial ones- my point is he is being criticized on a regular basis but cummins continues to ignore this.
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| He's a touch judge at the Salford-Cas game on Friday. Not sure what we've done to deserve him!!
I don't normally criticise refs (I couldn't do it) but I do think that getting the tackle count wrong is a big clanger that deserves more than being demoted to TJ for a week.
Having said that i wonder how often it happens without a try being scored and no-one notices/complains??
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| Quote ="Wheels"Barrow scored the winner against York on the 7th tackle at Craven Park in the Choo Choo Cup earlier this season. I was pretty annoyed then.
Does that count?'"
given that it was the northern rail cup - i think you could say you weren't chuffed
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| Quote ="the artist"given that it was the northern rail cup - i think you could say you weren't chuffed'"
I've railed against him ever since.
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| Quote ="Wheels"I've railed against him ever since.'"
Are you sure he didn't give the correct signals?
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| Mr Child gets alot of stick - especially at the start of this season (and rightly so). However, of late he seems to have improved dramatically. I do not see how this is worse than what he was doing at the start of the season.
If Childs has been dropped for this its a disgrace because Phil 'Bent' Bentham single handedly lost Cas the game against St's on Easter Monday. In that game St's had TWO sets of 7 tackles (one which they too scored from) and yet Cas had TWO sets of only 4 tackles! In addition Bentham forgot to single the last on another of Cas' sets leaving us turning the ball over on our own 40. Thats 5 sets he ballsed up in St's favour and yet nothing ever came of it. He also has form as he was shown up live on Sky at MM in the Hull derby for doing the same thing.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"The funniest thing is that you didn't actually notice until you watched Boots n All, and now you are outraged about it.'"
You saw his display in Cardiff? You saw and heard all about his horror show at Hull? Did you see the try that never was that he gave Crusaders for the clearest double movement you'll ever see? Did you see the try that never was that he gave at Salford a week before the Bradford game? Did you see some of the blatant errors he made in the Bulls game last week?
Mistakes are allowed, but the frequency and nature of those made by James Child suggest his competence to referee at SL level has to be seriously questioned.
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| What really has to be questioned is the decision by Stuart Cummings to give a young, inexperienced & recently criticised referee 2 very big games in consecutive weeks with the Leeds v Warrington followed by Bradford v Saints game.
Also while we're sticking the boot in to refs, whoever was reffing the Saints v Leeds game missed that Saints only had 5 players in a scrum and 8 players in the defensive line.
As for Wheels & Ski, stop de-railing the thread with stupid puns.
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| I saw a kicker miss a kick,he must be dropped immediately,I saw a forward miss a tackle,he must be dropped immediately,I saw a back drop a pass,he must be dropped immediately,I saw a coach select the wrong tactics he must be dropped immediately,I constantly read illiterate garbage on here,from people who have never made a decision in their lives.
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| Quote ="Ski"Are you sure he didn't give the correct signals?'"
Do you have any points to make?
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| If you think he's bad, ask older Australian supporters about a certain Greg Hartley (and stand well back!!).
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| Quote ="Speccy"I saw a kicker miss a kick,he must be dropped immediately,I saw a forward miss a tackle,he must be dropped immediately,I saw a back drop a pass,he must be dropped immediately,I saw a coach select the wrong tactics he must be dropped immediately,I constantly read illiterate garbage on here,from people who have never made a decision in their lives.'"
Coaches and players would be sacked/dropped if they consistently made major errors in every game they were involved in. Childs is a professional referee, paid by the game a decent salary - at the very least he should perform with some level of competence.
Questions also need to be asked of Cummings - and his role in selecting and appointing the full time panel of refs.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Barrow scored the winner against York on the 7th tackle at Craven Park in the Choo Choo Cup earlier this season. '"
Which leads to the question,why wasn't Silverwood treated in similar fashion to Childs ?
Despite the earlier pun his signals were NOT very good either,but it is fair to say there was a gale blowing with heavy downpours.
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Silverwood allowed a try following a pass from the floor in the same game.
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