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| Re the announcement that from the AU$1 billion broadcast revenue that it gets, the NRL will in 2014, "to ensure the long-term viability of NRL clubs", pay them an increased annual funding grant of AU$7.55 million next season (approx. £4.7m per club).
Can't the SL clubs just all join the NRL(UK) and let them run the game?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Re the announcement that from the AU$1 billion broadcast revenue that it gets, the NRL will in 2014, "to ensure the long-term viability of NRL clubs", pay them an increased annual funding grant of AU$7.55 million next season (approx. £4.7m per club).
Can't the SL clubs just all join the NRL(UK) and let them run the game?'"
How would that make any difference? Would UK TV companies suddenly pay alot more to televise a local game?
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| Quote ="Dally"How would that make any difference? Would UK TV companies suddenly pay alot more to televise a local game?'"
Yes if we had the Stars they had in their league! Our poxy 1.8 million cap worth of players wouldn't attract anything!
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"Yes if we had the Stars they had in their league! Our poxy 1.8 million cap worth of players wouldn't attract anything!'"
Where would those stars appear from, without weakening the NRL.
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| Quote ="Dally"Where would those stars appear from, without weakening the NRL.'"
Forget the NRL if we could bring the likes of Sonny Bill or Greg Inglis to the Super League you'd have Sky on their knees, plus what your forgetting is the British talent that have gone and left our game for Union or the NRL, if the cap was bigger they wouldn't have gone, unfortunately abRugby League career is short so if a player is offered more money elsewhere then there off.
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"Forget the NRL if we could bring the likes of Sonny Bill or Greg Inglis to the Super League you'd have Sky on their knees, plus what your forgetting is the British talent that have gone and left our game for Union or the NRL, if the cap was bigger they wouldn't have gone, unfortunately abRugby League career is short so if a player is offered more money elsewhere then there off.'"
"they're off", it should be.
I've had enough of people writing 'there' instead of 'they're' or 'their'. Did you go to school?
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| Quote ="OzWelsh""they're off", it should be.
I've had enough of people writing 'there' instead of 'they're' or 'their'. Did you go to school?'"
Aww cheers thanks for the spelling lesson, now tell me what has that got to do with anything in this thread? No contribution what so ever!
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"Forget the NRL if we could bring the likes of Sonny Bill or Greg Inglis to the Super League you'd have Sky on their knees, plus what your forgetting is the British talent that have gone and left our game for Union or the NRL, if the cap was bigger they wouldn't have gone, unfortunately abRugby League career is short so if a player is offered more money elsewhere then there off.'"
Yes, but if those players were playing at existing SL clubs why woyld Sky pay more? Who will be the new subscribers?
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| If league had the money it would go hunting union players again,i cant see a reason for the cream of the nrl to come over here now
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"Forget the NRL if we could bring the likes of Sonny Bill or Greg Inglis to the Super League you'd have Sky on their knees, plus what your forgetting is the British talent that have gone and left our game for Union or the NRL, if the cap was bigger they wouldn't have gone, unfortunately abRugby League career is short so if a player is offered more money elsewhere then there off.'"
Haven't we got a ru player cap dispensation?
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| The point is sort of that over in Aus, under the NRL management, the game is going from strength to strength and over here, whilst no doubt the standard has gone up, to the extent that our players are actually now in demand as better thah anything most clubs there can produce, somehow the entire game seems to be in a financial morass.
Quote How would that make any difference? Would UK TV companies suddenly pay alot more to televise a local game?'"
Oh yes, because I really think that if the NRL took charge of SL then changes would instantly happen by magic, don't I.
The NRL has shown that, done the right way, RL CAN be a major and wealthy sport, and CAN attract extremely substantial and widespread sponsorship. In cash. So what, if any, is your point? Do you believe that the RFL are running things to the max, perfectly, and so despite many clubs being on the brink, every possible penny has been squeezed from every possible source? Is that your view? Well, then we may as well pack the game in now.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Re the announcement that from the AU$1 billion broadcast revenue that it gets, the NRL will in 2014, "to ensure the long-term viability of NRL clubs", pay them an increased annual funding grant of AU$7.55 million next season (approx. £4.7m per club).
Can't the SL clubs just all join the NRL(UK) and let them run the game?'"
Yeah....'coz Bradford have been so hard done by, by the RFL
Quote ="RED LEAGUE"Forget the NRL if we could bring the likes of Sonny Bill or Greg Inglis to the Super League you'd have Sky on their knees, '"
You're quite frankly, certifiable id you think SBW is anything other than a minor distraction and 99% of the British population wouldn't know who GI was if he popped in for coffee
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"The NRL has shown that, done the right way, RL CAN be a major and wealthy sport, and CAN attract extremely substantial and widespread sponsorship.'"
In New Zealand, the warriors attract sponsorship and TV viewers on par with the netball teams and 2nd tier Union. In Australia, Perth, Adelaide, WA and to a lesser extent, Victoria, do not give a flying one about RL or the NRL. RL is big news in Sydney......even then, the biggest average for a club side there is smaller than the Swans AFL side.
Do not mistake the Americanisation of 'stralia TV deals for anything less than it is.....one of 2 sports, the smaller one BTW, that less than 5% of the country watch live on FTA and that has an average attendance smaller than Championship soccer in the UK or S15 rugby across the SH.
The irony of a Bradford fan bemoaning a governing body that has bailed his side out NUMEROUSLY is not lost on me
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| Gf why are you bringing Bradford into it? It's irrelevant who FA supports.
If NRL is as small as the picture you paint the surely he has a point and the NRL board has done wonders in getting a tv deal so big.
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| I really think it's time Super League was replaced with National Rugby League UK and appoint some NRL senior staff or set up a similar commission as from my perspective this game at national pro level is been run into the ground.
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| Quote ="Worzel"I really think it's time Super League was replaced with National Rugby League UK and appoint some NRL senior staff or set up a similar commission as from my perspective this game at national pro level is been run into the ground.'"
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| I recall when Brsibane Broncos were attracting big crowds that they tried via Barry Maranta to weave the NRL magic on London Broncos. Despite some early promise look how things turned out. Until the wider British public gets into RL (and I see no prospect of that ever having given the contary vested interests and lack of finance in the game to kick start a massive and sustained promotional campaign) then whatever management there is the result will be the same.
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what you fail to mention in your OP is that:
1. the salary cap is going up as well so clubs will actually only be $50k better off if they take the money
2. it is an advance interest free loan for clubs that are skint, not an increased payment
A number of NRL clubs are financially struggling as much as some SL clubs despite the $billion TV deal they just signed.
www.theleader.com.au/story/17948 ... me-ground/
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what you fail to mention in your OP is that:
1. the salary cap is going up as well so clubs will actually only be $50k better off if they take the money
2. it is an advance interest free loan for clubs that are skint, not an increased payment
A number of NRL clubs are financially struggling as much as some SL clubs despite the $billion TV deal they just signed.
www.theleader.com.au/story/17948 ... me-ground/
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Quote ="JB Down Under"what you fail to mention in your OP ... '"
"fail"? I made short post, I wasn't writing an exhaustive treatise analysing the entire Australian game ffs
Quote ="JB Down Under"... is that:
1. the salary cap is going up as well so clubs will actually only be $50k better off if they take the money
2. it is an advance interest free loan for clubs that are skint, not an increased payment
A number of NRL clubs are financially struggling as much as some SL clubs despite the $billion TV deal they just signed.
www.theleader.com.au/story/17948 ... me-ground/'"
I am looking at it from the perspective of the rugby, the standard of play, the quality of the teams, the attendances they get, and the amount of money that the players, especially the top players, can earn. This attracts commits and retains a large proportion of the best and most talented athletes, and in turn the crowds pay to come and watch them, as the quality of the comp is the best there is.
However if you are suggesting that at the same time, NRL clubs would all be run as some profit-making business and their directors all jetting off to their condos in Hawaii, counting their profits - WHY? NRL is no different to any major sport in the world - the attraction for rich people is to own a top club and throw a bunch of money at making it the best or trying to.
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Quote ="JB Down Under"what you fail to mention in your OP ... '"
"fail"? I made short post, I wasn't writing an exhaustive treatise analysing the entire Australian game ffs
Quote ="JB Down Under"... is that:
1. the salary cap is going up as well so clubs will actually only be $50k better off if they take the money
2. it is an advance interest free loan for clubs that are skint, not an increased payment
A number of NRL clubs are financially struggling as much as some SL clubs despite the $billion TV deal they just signed.
www.theleader.com.au/story/17948 ... me-ground/'"
I am looking at it from the perspective of the rugby, the standard of play, the quality of the teams, the attendances they get, and the amount of money that the players, especially the top players, can earn. This attracts commits and retains a large proportion of the best and most talented athletes, and in turn the crowds pay to come and watch them, as the quality of the comp is the best there is.
However if you are suggesting that at the same time, NRL clubs would all be run as some profit-making business and their directors all jetting off to their condos in Hawaii, counting their profits - WHY? NRL is no different to any major sport in the world - the attraction for rich people is to own a top club and throw a bunch of money at making it the best or trying to.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark""fail"? I made short post, I wasn't writing an exhaustive treatise analysing the entire Australian game ffs
I am looking at it from the perspective of the rugby, the standard of play, the quality of the teams, the attendances they get, and the amount of money that the players, especially the top players, can earn. This attracts commits and retains a large proportion of the best and most talented athletes, and in turn the crowds pay to come and watch them, as the quality of the comp is the best there is.
However if you are suggesting that at the same time, NRL clubs would all be run as some profit-making business and their directors all jetting off to their condos in Hawaii, counting their profits - WHY? NRL is no different to any major sport in the world - the attraction for rich people is to own a top club and throw a bunch of money at making it the best or trying to.
Last time I heard, the NRL which runs the game there did not own or run any particular club.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Gf why are you bringing Bradford into it? It's irrelevant who FA supports.
If NRL is as small as the picture you paint the surely he has a point and the NRL board has done wonders in getting a tv deal so big.'"
GF is going on about Bradford because he's obsessed with the club - you should have a look at the bilge on RA&B..
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| Whilst no one can argue the NRL isn't massive in Oz the two markets are very different. NRL and afl are pretty much on equal footing where as in UK soccer is totally nationally dominant. In Oz the TV stations are desperate for sports content to drive their audience share so pay big money, in UK the fta TV stations have pretty much given up trying to show top level domestic competitions, Oz has only 6 major cities and RL is number one sport in 3 of them. RU in Oz is a joke and no competition to RL unlike in England, ignore gutters he has no idea on the strength of RL in Oz, he is so delusional he thinks S15 is even close to the popularity of NRL even though they can't get on fta, have only 5 clubs and the TV audiences for s15 are smaller than the nrl's U20's competition lol.
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| Quote ="OzWelsh""they're off", it should be.
I've had enough of people writing 'there' instead of 'they're' or 'their'. Did you go to school?'"
Know.
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"Yes if we had the Stars they had in their league! Our poxy 1.8 million cap worth of players wouldn't attract anything!'"
Ah, it’s poxy now, a year ago Salford fans would dream of spending up to the cap.
How times & opinions change .
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| Get a BBC & premier Sports deal similar to the World Cup going and get rid of SKY.
That's one way to get the wider public seeing RL.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Ah, it’s poxy now, a year ago Salford fans would dream of spending up to the cap.
How times & opinions change
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it was poxy then aswell. If you think about it there at 400 players in the top flight. They are the best 400 players in the country. Some of them will be getting 30-40k a year (the kids even less) The average wage for an RL player is about 70k. Not a bad wage but that’s for someone top 200 in the country in their field. There will be sales people earning much more than that, electricians, plumbers, engineers on way way more than that. There probably aren’t too many professions in this country where the top 200 people in it earn as little as 70k.
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