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| Wigan give it the big one on here throughout the week! " we will win by 20, if we dont i will be dissapointed! well to be honest they only scored 20 never mind beat us by it !
What thier excuse now? they cannot blame the ref! they had him on there side all game!
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| Wind?
I was stood to the side of the stand and it didn't feel very windy to me! Yes the flags on top of the stand were fluttering a bit but lets be honest it wasn't a gale now was it
They will roll out lots of excuses no doubt, but guess what? I don't wanna listen!
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| Guess what ! Me too
Carnt blame the ref! Jesus that would be a joke
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| Quote ="New_Farnley_Bull"Wind?
I was stood to the side of the stand and it didn't feel very windy to me!'"
I thought the same, until I saw a kick off from Wigan in the second half that quite clearly changed direction in the air as it held up due to the wind.
But at the end of the day, they swapped ends at half time. Should the wind then be credited with 42 unanswered points?
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| I nearly went home at half time because it was so windy, nothing to do with the score....honest
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| Quote ="New_Farnley_Bull"I nearly went home at half time because it was so windy, nothing to do with the score....honest
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quite a large portion of the wigan support did leave 10 mins from end - obviously thought theyd need extra time to battle the wind back to their coaches
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| Quote ="Bradfords top lad"
What thier excuse now? they cannot blame the ref! they had him on there side all game!
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I wouldn't have said ALL game. He made a few questionable decisions both ways, to be honest, I thought he had a decent game.
Defence was the key. Defence won us the first 4 matches, it cost us this one.
I wouldn't be confident to call it next time we meet, especially if both teams were fully fit.
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| Quote ="Fishsta"I wouldn't have said ALL game. He made a few questionable decisions both ways, to be honest, I thought he had a decent game.
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Go on then - what questionable decisions went Bradford's way?
He was shocking.
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| I left this game just before the final kick after such a awful defeat. It wasn't because we lost to Bradford but the manner in which we lost. I was shouting and screaming how rubbish we were and that we had lost to a pi$$ poor team.
Fortunately however I got home, went to bed, recovered from my alcoholic state of annoyance and bravely watched the game again on the television afterwards. I still think we were awful in the second half but the enthusiasm from Bradford in that second half, looking at it from an unbiased perspective, was brilliant and certainly something you can take into the rest of the season with you.
Jamie Langley and Matt Orford were absolutely immense in the second half and we completely deserved to lose, no complaints whatsoever. It's just unfortunate as a Wiganer and mightily frustrating that we let ourselves get out-enthused and panicked.
I take back my drunken tirade on the way home how Bradford are a poor side and if any Bradford fan heard a Wiganer on his way out 30 seconds from the end saying such things then I apologise to them as well. I think you will push on and be contenders this season if you can reproduce this mentality throughout the season and good luck to you. Congratulations on the win.
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| Quote ="debaser"Go on then - what questionable decisions went Bradford's way?
He was shocking.'"
You won't get an answer.
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| Quote ="debaser"Go on then - what questionable decisions went Bradford's way?
He was shocking.'"
Decisions not to penalise a couple of high tackles, mainly. Like I say, works both ways, Wigan made a couple too.
Also forward passes. It's always been a bugbear of mine that the pass from the PTB is often a line-ball AT BEST. It's most noticeable with Cunningham and also Diskin, very rarely does a pass not go forward for those two. There were several again last night, but again, unpenalised.
Also in the build up to the final try, I'm sure there's a forward pass, but we got away with one in a build up to one of ours.
That's why I say, he didn't have a massively bad game by spoiling it in favour of either team, but he missed some things which POTENTIALLY could have changed the result. Whether for better or worse though, I couldn't say.
I think we'll reverse the result on the return fixture though. It will certainly be interesting to see how you fare at fortress Robin Park.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"You won't get an answer.'"
Which shows your lack of depth of understanding of anything, really.
By the way, I know I said earlier, "I wouldn't like to call" our next meeting, but having just seen the Super League Show, the game was filled with more positives than negatives for us. Remaining injury free will help us immensely, but I'm confident of a turnaround now.
Wish I could say the same for the next time we face Warrington.
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| That Wiganer with the Manly top it showed on Sky after the final whistle telling his missus to f*** off was hillarious.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"That Wiganer with the Manly top it showed on Sky after the final whistle telling his missus to f*** off was hillarious.'"
Bless him, some of the shots from the Wigan crowd were hilarious. I think they were all wondering by how many they were going to beat us by at half time!
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| Quote ="Fishsta"Decisions not to penalise a couple of high tackles, mainly. Like I say, works both ways, Wigan made a couple too.
Also forward passes. It's always been a bugbear of mine that the pass from the PTB is often a line-ball AT BEST. It's most noticeable with Cunningham and also Diskin, very rarely does a pass not go forward for those two. There were several again last night, but again, unpenalised.
Also in the build up to the final try, I'm sure there's a forward pass, but we got away with one in a build up to one of ours.
That's why I say, he didn't have a massively bad game by spoiling it in favour of either team, but he missed some things which POTENTIALLY could have changed the result. Whether for better or worse though, I couldn't say.
I think we'll reverse the result on the return fixture though. It will certainly be interesting to see how you fare at fortress Robin Park.'"
Forward passes are the linesmens responsibility aren't they? And the most obvious one was the one that Wigan got away with for their first try.
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| we got away with a knock on just before one of our tries I reckon. There was a forward pass in the run-up to a Wigan team and the off-sides were awful. I don't think the ref changed the result though and I'm surprised anyone thought the wind was that strong. No more than a stiff breeze really.
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| Quote ="AndreaB"we got away with a knock on just before one of our tries I reckon. There was a forward pass in the run-up to a Wigan team and the off-sides were awful. I don't think the ref changed the result though and I'm surprised anyone thought the wind was that strong. No more than a stiff breeze really.'"
There are forward passes in every game which no-one seems to care about (especially the officials), maybe it's the 'let's keep the game moving' mantra which seems to prevail. I'm not going to knock Bentham for the odd miss, as you say, it went both ways and didn't affect the result (in a tight game as well!) and anybody can make a mistake.
What I did notice about the PTBs was that he seemed to go a metre or so beyond the ten, which meant that anyone standing slightly in front would have actually been ON-side, again this was the same for both teams. This used to be common practice at one time but not so much now. He did give an odd 'not square' decision (against Wigan) which surprised me because the refs in general don't seem to be applying that rule these days.
I didn't think the wind was strong (from my seat in the stand!!) but on TV the flags were well stretched out. I think the clincher though has to be the kicking performances of the respective teams in each half, where both got much more distance when kicking towards the Coral Stand.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"I didn't think the wind was strong (from my seat in the stand!!) but on TV the flags were well stretched out. I think the clincher though has to be the kicking performances of the respective teams in each half, where both got much more distance when kicking towards the Coral Stand.'"
The flags were one indicator but the ball clearly changing direction in mid-air was the other. When the ball was kicked off against the wind, you could see it in the air (from the side-on view anyway) clearly hold up. If there was no wind, then it must have been some sort of wonder-ball to do that!
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