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The comment about Semi's future being tied up in a coupe,of weeks, when we were told before it would be end of last week, made me wonder if we had missed out on a signing and had gone back to Semi with an improved offer.
All wild speculation at the moment, and I guess arising because too few people trust the club? Its getting more and more like Substandard in the the "Believe Leeds" and "Hetherington's Sleeve" times on here every day. If the end result though was how it turned out for Leeds, I guess we could live with it...'"
Medley did say that the best of the academy side would be promoted to the first team squad en bloc when they're ready. Maybe next season is when that's going to be? I hope they really are ready if that's the case and it's not being done because the club's hand has been forced due to them being unsuccessful with other recruitment options.
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Another twist in the saga.
NZ Warriors to target SL players.
A regular in the Great Britain side, Ellis is the type of player Bell will be after. New Zealand has enough talent coming through to fill out the club's junior ranks. Bell wants only finished products.
[iBradford prop Sam Burgess would certainly fit the bill. Already an established international at just 20, Burgess is rated by many as the best young forward in the game - in either hemisphere. He is contracted to Bradford for another season, but Manly and Souths are already circling.
His manager, Chris Caisley, has said it is just a matter of time until Burgess switches to the NRL, but the sticking point with British players is usually money. The exchange rate means the money on offer in the NRL falls well short of what the best British players can earn in Super League.[/i
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Another twist in the saga.
NZ Warriors to target SL players.
A regular in the Great Britain side, Ellis is the type of player Bell will be after. New Zealand has enough talent coming through to fill out the club's junior ranks. Bell wants only finished products.
[iBradford prop Sam Burgess would certainly fit the bill. Already an established international at just 20, Burgess is rated by many as the best young forward in the game - in either hemisphere. He is contracted to Bradford for another season, but Manly and Souths are already circling.
His manager, Chris Caisley, has said it is just a matter of time until Burgess switches to the NRL, but the sticking point with British players is usually money. The exchange rate means the money on offer in the NRL falls well short of what the best British players can earn in Super League.[/i
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Yep - it is a sorry state of affairs right enough.'"
In some respects but not all. |
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Burgess set for Souths move
By STEVE MASCORD
Bradford Bulls have agreed to release England prop Sam Burgess from the final season of his contract and he will join South Sydney next year on a four-year deal.
rugbyleague.com can reveal that after more than a month of negotiations, the Rabbitohs have agreed to pay the Bulls compensation to buy out the 2010 portion of Burgess' tenure at the Grattan Stadium.
"All I can tell you is that that negotiations are ongoing,'' Souths chief executive Shane Richardson said.
"We are keen to have Sam at the club and we are working towards that end.''
But it's understood there is little more to take place in the process than for the funds to land in the Bulls' bank account.
In their negotiations, the Bunnies reminded the Bulls that if they hung on to the 20-year-old for another year they would get no compensation at all for his departure.
South Sydney owner Russell Crowe was involved in the early stages of negotiations, wining and dining the young star and his manager during filming of the upcoming Robin Hood film.
"Sam didn't drink but he sure can eat,'' Crowe said later.
It is understood the fee involved in the transfer is a significant six-figure sum.
Burgess is the third prop signed by the Rabbitohs for 2010, after Brisbane hulk Dave Taylor and Queensland Origin star Ben Ross, from Cronulla.
They already boast the man ranked the leading front rower in the world, injured New Zealand captain Roy Asotasi.
Meanwhile the British flag will be flown on NRL grand final day by Gareth Widdop, the fullback in Melbourne's under 20s side.
Widdop played for Yorkshire Under 16s before emigrating with his family. He has been offered a senior contract with the Storm next year and shapes as Billy Slater's fullback understudy.
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Bradford Bulls have agreed to release England prop Sam Burgess from the final season of his contract and he will join South Sydney next year on a four-year deal.
rugbyleague.com can reveal that after more than a month of negotiations, the Rabbitohs have agreed to pay the Bulls compensation to buy out the 2010 portion of Burgess' tenure at the Grattan Stadium.
"All I can tell you is that that negotiations are ongoing,'' Souths chief executive Shane Richardson said.
"We are keen to have Sam at the club and we are working towards that end.''
But it's understood there is little more to take place in the process than for the funds to land in the Bulls' bank account.
In their negotiations, the Bunnies reminded the Bulls that if they hung on to the 20-year-old for another year they would get no compensation at all for his departure.
South Sydney owner Russell Crowe was involved in the early stages of negotiations, wining and dining the young star and his manager during filming of the upcoming Robin Hood film.
"Sam didn't drink but he sure can eat,'' Crowe said later.
It is understood the fee involved in the transfer is a significant six-figure sum.
Burgess is the third prop signed by the Rabbitohs for 2010, after Brisbane hulk Dave Taylor and Queensland Origin star Ben Ross, from Cronulla.
They already boast the man ranked the leading front rower in the world, injured New Zealand captain Roy Asotasi.
Meanwhile the British flag will be flown on NRL grand final day by Gareth Widdop, the fullback in Melbourne's under 20s side.
Widdop played for Yorkshire Under 16s before emigrating with his family. He has been offered a senior contract with the Storm next year and shapes as Billy Slater's fullback understudy.
The Melbourne Thunderbolts Toyota Cup side takes on Brisbane at 2.10pm Sydney time
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| Quote ="af"Yeah, but at least you're doing your bit to raise morale.'"
Sorry, I was taking lessons in that from the club because they are doing a super duper job of lightening the gloom at the moment.
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1. Out of the play-offs
2. Crap coach and backroom staff.
3. Declining crowds
4. Imminent loss of our brightest star.
5. Appearing no further forward on the OSV.
And what have the club done about it? Got Paul Medley to say a few words in order to appease the masses.
It is a crap situation and I, for one, would like to know what they are doing about it because they cannot continue the "Building for the Future" poppy anymore. |
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It is a crap situation and I, for one, would like to know what they are doing about it because they cannot continue the "Building for the Future" poppy anymore.'"
Maybe we could have "De-commissioning for the future" for next years slogan. |
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But it's understood there is little more to take place in the process than for the funds to land in the Bulls' bank account.
In their negotiations, the Bunnies reminded the Bulls that if they hung on to the 20-year-old for another year they would get no compensation at all for his departure.
It is understood the fee involved in the transfer is a significant six-figure sum.'"
cr@p.
One question of many I have, is it a 6 figure $sum or £sum ($100,000 = £54,641) |
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| Quote ="Duckman"cr@p.
One question of many I have, is it a 6 figure $sum or £sum (£100,000 = $54,641)'"
Well, it comes from an Aussie source, so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the fee in proper money.
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| Quote ="Asim"Well, it comes from an Aussie source, so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the fee in proper money.
No doubt it will be "undisclosed".'"
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True, neither club has an interest in naming the fee.
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Undisclosed = Peanuts = Nowhere near the true value.
Rather we keep Sam for another season then allow him away this year for next to nothing.
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| Quote ="af"True, neither club has an interest in naming the fee.'"
On the contrary, if it is a handsome fee then Bradford have plenty interest in naming the fee. |
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"On the contrary, if it is a handsome fee then Bradford have plenty interest in naming the fee.'"
True if fan handsome and reality handsome were the same thing. |
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| Quote ="af"True, neither club has an interest in naming the fee.'"
I wont be too interested in the exact amount anyway, it's what we do with it now before next season that matters. It could be 1,000,000 but if we dont use it right its useless, whereas if we used £75,000 (say) to buy a quality impact prop, a quality half and a quality back then fine, we'll have done the best with the hand we've been dealt. It all depends on whos available for what, and none of us on here know for sure.
So I'll wait and see how the whole recruitment picture pans out before I pass too much judgement, as its clear that our plans will have been changed/influenced by this move, which is probably why we've not heard any more on the INS until the main OUT has been officially confirmed.
Its going to be impossible to spin positively the fact that Sam is leaving, however much the logic is laid out, so the club just needs to move on and announce something else positive and thank Sam for his efforts and hope he is sucessful in Oz and remind him where he might want to return to when he does come back.
But Im gutted he's off, even though I can't blame him really, and the club can't force players to stay who want to go - you wont have the same performance from the player anyway if he feels trapped and then he walks out for free anyway. Rubbish situation all round unless you're a souths fan. |
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Ok doom and gloom merchants....
what exactly do you want the club to be doing right now?
As far as you know they are getting the best possible deal for Sam, to the benefit of the Bulls and the fans.
It is Sam who is in the wrong here isn't it? He has left us in the lurch, too late in the day to sign a replacement. Why blame the club?
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"If this has been mentioned elsewhere, I apologise as there is a lot to get through but I seem to remember af trying to tell us all how Burgess wanted to stay with the Bulls, primarily because of a certain Mr S McNamara. How does this theory work now then?'" Made the same point a few weeks back on another thread. It appears the SM now isn't the USP. |
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| Quote ="debaser"Ok doom and gloom merchants....
what exactly do you want the club to be doing right now?
As far as you know they are getting the best possible deal for Sam, to the benefit of the Bulls and the fans.
It is Sam who is in the wrong here isn't it? He has left us in the lurch, too late in the day to sign a replacement. Why blame the club?'"
As I said earlier I'm keeping my powder dry until I see what the club does in response. |
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| Quote ="debaser"
It is Sam who is in the wrong here isn't it? He has left us in the lurch, too late in the day to sign a replacement. Why blame the club?'"
I suspect the club have known about this for a wee while now TBH. If so, I expect the club to name a hell of a good replacement in order to appease the fans.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"I suspect the club have known about this for a wee while now TBH. If so, I expect the club to name a hell of a good replacement in order to appease the fans.
For some, losing Burgess without a marquee replacement would be the final straw I suspect.'"
But do people really think the club have been sat around doing f-all? I am sure that they have tried/are trying to find a replacement. Perhaps the player(s) are not out there.
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