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| Quote ="Hessle Roader" but Bull's fans should accept that the blame lies with the many incarnations of what passes for their board of directors and not with the RFL, fans of other clubs, directors of other clubs et., etc.'"
Nope. I accept it is MAINLY the fault of our various owners but short-sighted and inept plays by the RFL have exacerbated it.
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| Isn't the moral high ground brilliant?
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"ffs what does THAT mean? A new party has come forward that hasn't before?'"
It's the RFU and the game is changing to rugby union.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Anyone else agree that situations like this bring out some of the very worst scumbags that humanity has the misfortune to be saddled with?'"
Agreed....but then again, you can't say I didn't warn you about Ryan Whitcu*t
The uncertainty surrounding the Bulls has had an immediate knock-on effect on the expected "away" numbers for Sunday. The Taxi has been cancelled and a courier bike ordered as a replacement.
Chin up guys and gals.....snide/jokey comments aside, you'll see out the season and I still say you have a good chance to avoid the drop!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Chin up guys and gals.....snide/jokey comments aside, you'll see out the season and I still say you have a good chance to avoid the drop!'"
Every now and then you prove your humanity.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Every now and then you prove your humanity.'"
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| Whats the theme?
Ryan Whitcut
Peter Hood and Chris Caisley
Omar Khan and Gerry Sutcliffe
Mark Moore, Ian Watt and Andrew Calvert
Bozo, Blinko, Ronald McDonald, Coco, Krusty, Pennywise, The Joker and Buttons
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| Quote ="ccs"I thought Bradford chose a funding cut to avoid being relegated?'"
Omar - "Here's an idea, how about you withhold our Sky money instead of relegating us, what do you think Ralph"?
Ralph - "That's a great idea Omar"
Blake - "But what are we to do with all that spare wonga?, put it back into grass roots footy"?
Gerry - "Don't be so silly Blake, why don't you share it all out amongst our rivals, for the good of the game of course"
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| Quote ="JUDGE666"Omar - "Here's an idea, how about you withhold our Sky money instead of relegating us, what do you think Ralph"?
Ralph - "That's a great idea Omar"
'" So you don't disagree with my original post.
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| Thgink you pressed "submit" before you finished typing? Think you meant to say:
Quote ="JUDGE666"Omar - "Here's an idea, how about you withhold our Sky money instead of relegating us, what do you think Ralph"?
Ralph - "That's a great idea Omar"
Blake - "But what are we to do with all that spare wonga?, put it back into grass roots footy"?
Gerry - "Don't be so silly Blake, why don't you share it all out amongst our rivals, for the good of the game of course"
Omar - "Fekk off Gerrykins yopu kn0bhead, you are talking out of your anus as usual! Since the amount is about equal to Oldco's creditors, why doesn't the RFL put it into a trust fund to pay off those creditors? What a WONDERFUL advert for the caring, sharing, socially-responsible game that would be? REALLY steal the march on other sports? HMG would be EVER so impressed, they might even look kindly on more funding for the grass roots of the game? Must be worth a few million, I'd say? And I could take the moral high ground by saying I had volunteered to pay off ALL the club's creditors. showing what a caring sharing Omar I am. Its win win win. What's not to like about that?"
Big Nige - "fekk that for a lark. A majority of the other clubs have made it clear that they want to grab that wonga all for themselves, and fekk the creditors. They don't give a Davy about the greater good of the game, all they want is to see Bulls fekking hammered and their own club's snouts in the trough. And, worst of all, they threatened to stop my pies and biscuits allowance. So we are all agreed then? Fekk all over Bradford, fekk the creditors, and (oh joy!!!) my pie allowance is safe? Have the pies arrived yet?"
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| I remember reading those caisley comments in 2004 mentioned by bullseye at the time.
Who knew? It's incomprehensible how far the bulls have fallen thinking back to those times. Maybe the bulls fans should have taken note.
It just shows how much of a rot has been setting in when caisley, almost prophetic could see problems a decade ago when the bulls were at their peak.
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| Thanks 'Cows'.
Unfortunately, I remember what you did to us when Caisley was in charge.
You'll never get any sympathy from me or any other true Cougar supporter.
You screwed us and all of the other clubs denied access to Superleague.
Northern have milked everything and screwed their supporters.
So, will you explain why it is legal to buy yourself out of administration using funds that are already appropriated to those who have lost their money?
Why should I, as a taxpayer, allow Northern not to pay what is rightfully due to the Revenue without any recourse?
What makes Northern different from other UK law-abiding taxpayers?
As I say, "plus ca change".
But I know that the world owes a lot to Northern! NOT!!!!!
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| Quote ="666"Thanks 'Cows'.
Unfortunately, I remember what you did to us when Caisley was in charge.
You'll never get any sympathy from me or any other true Cougar supporter.
You screwed us and all of the other clubs denied access to Superleague.
Northern have milked everything and screwed their supporters.
So, will you explain why it is legal to buy yourself out of administration using funds that are already appropriated to those who have lost their money?
Why should I, as a taxpayer, allow Northern not to pay what is rightfully due to the Revenue without any recourse?
What makes Northern different from other UK law-abiding taxpayers?
As I say, "plus ca change".
But I know that the world owes a lot to Northern! NOT!!!!!'"
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| Not well said. It's pure spite directed at the fans who have done nothing wrong. It is frankly pathetic.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Not well said. It's pure spite directed at the fans who have done nothing wrong. It is frankly pathetic.'"
Absolutely.
Far being it from me to question the wisdom and actions of the mods, but might this not be a good time to run some of the vermin who are so clearly contravening AUP 2.1 out of town?
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| Just to show the scumbag vermin up for the sludge at the bottom of the pond that they are, here - by contrast - are some words from Sir Steve O'Connor, against whom no sensible Bulls fan will ever hear a bad word said:
[i=#400040“It would be easy to take a very self-interested view about this situation in terms of what it might mean for our own club. But the fact is it’s the Bradford fans you have to feel sorry for.
“The fans have already put their hands in their pockets once to try to bale the club out and now many of them will have paid their season-ticket money and don’t know where they stand. It’s outrageous."[/i
I would imagine that he would share the same view of some of these slime moulds who have infested this forum as we do? A better man by far than the whole bloody bolus of them put together.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Not well said. It's pure spite directed at the fans who have done nothing wrong. It is frankly pathetic.'"
Yes you are quite right, having read the post again.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Just to show the scumbag vermin up for the sludge at the bottom of the pond that they are, here - by contrast - are some words from Sir Steve O'Connor,.'"
Did O'Connor get his knighthood at the same time as Sir Peter Hood?
I recall that some Bulls fans had the audacity to question Hood long before the sale of Odsal. The questioners were called things like...slime etc. Some of those vitriolic posters seemed to want Hood deified never mind knighted.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Did O'Connor get his knighthood at the same time as Sir Peter Hood?
I recall that some Bulls fans had the audacity to question Hood long before the sale of Odsal. The questioners were called things like...slime etc. Some of those vitriolic posters seemed to want Hood deified never mind knighted.'"
Here's another toilet that needs flushing. What exactly does that pointless and meaningless anecdote contribute?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Here's another toilet that needs flushing. What exactly does that pointless and meaningless anecdote contribute?'"
What it contributes is precisely nothing. It has no answer to what I said, so it seeks to change the subject to one of its own choosing.
YOU can see it is a nasty little cockroach. I can see it is a nasty loittle cockroach. We can ALL see it is a nasty little cockroach. One that would probably run a mile if it came up in person against a few on here who knew it for what it was, and decided to take steps accordingly. Same as the rest of the nasty little slime moulds that have been attracted to our plight the way hyenas and vultures are to a wounded animal. They hide behind their keyboards thinking they are Soooo clever and Sooooo smart. When in fact they are just sad pathetic little creatures that are sooooooooo desperate to be noticed and for someone to take them seriously. Utterly pathetic.
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| This question has probably been answered but I failed to find it.
If a buyer comes forward AND pays off all the creditors, will the bulls receive their points back? The deduction was because BB2014 wherent going to pay anyone am I correct, or may we get 4 back and have 2 due to entering admin?
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| Quote ="broadybull87"This question has probably been answered but I failed to find it.
If a buyer comes forward AND pays off all the creditors, will the bulls receive their points back? The deduction was because BB2014 wherent going to pay anyone am I correct, or may we get 4 back and have 2 due to entering admin?'"
Interesting one.
The sanctions are given to the member, which in this case was BB2014.
As they were running the Bulls team in the league at the time the sanctions were imposed, these points de facto disappeared from the league table.
Any new owner would have to go through the process of applying to be a member of SL and then to join SLE, that application would be to take over the Bulls franchise so that the new owners' team could take the place of the previous Bulls.
The obvious answer would be if yes, then that includes starting where the previous one left off.
As no sanctions would have been applied to the new owners, they could not on the face of it apply to vary them. it would just be something that happened before their time.
Anyway it's almost certainly academic as I can't imagine there is anyone out there with either the ability or the willingness to pay all the old club's creditors which would be the only reason the RFL might have listened. The corollary of which though must be that that's the old creditors royally fooked, as only a lunatic would pay them and still take the full hit.
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| It has nowhere been said that BB2014 was not going to pay anyone.
My own understanding was that they were. But the RFL concluded that they had not proven categorically that they were.
Moore fired a string of very powerful accusations at the RFL. In Rimmer's response, he did not answer those accusations, but instead threw in a string of his powerful ones of his own. A pìssing contest while the staff at the club wonder what yet again is to become of them.
There is a list of specific questions for BB2014 and the RFL. Same questions to both parties. Straight answers required. Lets see what they say, and cross-reference. Get to the bottom of this once and for all, and see who the guilty men are here.
THEN we will see who is telling the truth in this whole sorry saga. For, sure as hell, someone is most certainly not, and this whole affair has the stench of a rotting carcass.
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| Does anyone know a member of staff well enough to ask them what they have been told about their position, whether by BB2014 or anyone else?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Does anyone know a member of staff well enough to ask them what they have been told about their position, whether by BB2014 or anyone else?'"
Staff? Who gives a toss. They are just commodities to be shat on, in the great game that is clearly being played out here.
There are people up at Odsal that have been working their nuts off to try and make a go of the totally shìte hand they have been dealt. This is real people we are talking about, Real peoples' lives. Yet some vermin sat behind fancy desks are treating them like something you scrape off your shoe. It is a total disgrace. How those so-called people, these excuses for humanity, can look themselves in the mirror in a morning is beyond me.
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