He was to be honest I actually thought he was going to be carried of, re looking at slow pace raynor did catch him
And as annoying Sam is he didn't look well after that. Maybe keep him out for a couple of weeks to make sure.

Typical dirty Bradford, the worst team in Yorkshire.

You sir/madam are a jerk.... head shot, player knocked out and its harsh... pftttt!

And you my dear fellow with your childish reaction breaking the forum rules by throwing insults at another member show the same class as your team!

Big difference McGuire did it to himself while cheating. Also I have never said that all I have ever said was that I have no sympathy because he was cheating at the time. Sam was scoring a try not cheating.

Makes a change

Out on our feet in the last 10 and Wigan get the try they needed to pull ahead and win.

Massie effort from every Bulls player today. Where the hell has this determination and pride been all year?

Maybe the rugby gods were giving retrospective punishment for all his holding the tacklers arm penalties?

As said during the commentary, only Raynor knows whether he was playing for the ball or trying to hit the player. He knocks the ball our and he's a hero, hits the player and he's a villain.

At high speed with one player diving for the line and the other coming in and diving from the side any mis-judgement is likely to end in disaster. A deliberate head shot? I'm not sure and I don't think the TV replays have the ability to look into the murky depths of someones soul as yet.

I've seen worse tackles where the player on the receiving end has got up and walked away and incidents which look like nothing where someone had been badly injured. I think the fact that Tomkins slid across the deck on his face didn't help Raynors case nor does the fact that it was played over and over in super slow motion.

So one of our best performances of year is a loss. Just the typical luck of a Bradford fan. I don't go away from this game happy but I'll take it. Challenge cup is all about winning.

Season over now, unless this performance becomes the norm. But didn't we say that after both the Leeds efforts and Cas win. I won't be expecting it just yet.

but that won't be cheating

At last some common sense, red card to me always implies intent and really think it was mistimed tackle. Two guys at full pace its easy to make a mistake. Anyway its academic and we should concentrate on a really good performance by Bradford, we need the same commitment for the rest of the season.

Performance of the season for me. With 13 men we may have gone on to win that game. Guess we'll never know.

Fantastic effort which I EXPECT to see next week against Salford.

Have to say you did very well today.

Raynors assault was awful take off your blinkers if it was on a bulls lad there would rightly be an utcry.

with 18 men i,m sure you would have won

Talk about been melodramatic! It was a mistimed attempt at dislodging the ball, nothing more.

ooops

He has to make a desperate attempt to tackle, dis lodge ball at last minute against a very quick man, who then hits his head on the hard ground which makes it look worse.

Red card? possibly but without the knock out on the ground Tomkins would have been up on his feet and no red card. You can bet Ganson and touchie didnt realise impact hitting the ground had, they wouldnt have seen that, i needed replay on TV to see collision with ground

Well done Bulls anyhow, some pride & passion at last

So by using the word assault you know that Raynor definately went in to attack the player rather than the ball? In the replays from the popular end it looks like Raynor actually tries to pull his arm back at the last minute.

I don't deny that it was a clumsy or mistimed but I have no evidence that the intent to attack the player rather than the ball was there. You see some tackles and it's obvious that the intent was there and I don't think this was one of those.

Kyle Briggs had a good game today, his kicking was pretty good, few dodgy passes between him and Jeffries but they linked up quite well today.

I thought we looked good in attack, he'll only get better the more games he plays.

I know some people on here talk about his defensive game or the clubs view of that, but I'd take that weakness any day of the week to get the creativity and attacking game he brings.

Although we lost I'm really really proud of us. Was a fantastic effort and the lads should take some confidence.
Shame we lost Raynor, just had a bit to much to do. 13 men on the field and we win that game IMO.
The value of Langley to this team was there for all to see. I really liked our backrow today. All three get through a mountain of work and if we had a full squad to choose from that's what I would select. Really looking forward to the next few weeks.

I thought he did well bit he really has to improve in defence. Did you see his effort on finch that cost us the try.

Good performance... shame about the result. Lets hope we can build on this to the end of the season.

Just back from the game, such an atmosphere at Odsal to say there were less there today! The ref spoilt the game in my eyes, we could have won that with the extra man-Wigan got lucky at times. Proud of the bulls!