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| I don't wish Leon any ill, just hope St's drop him at the weekend
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| form is temporary class is permanent. leon is a class act if there is a chance we might be able to sign him we should be doing all we can to make it happen IMO'"
Got to agree, leon did'nt get on with nobby & maybe the same has happened with potter. He's still quality i'd have him back in a flash but i dont think it will happen just yet. To have his best mate back at the club can only help.
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| Quote ="el toro"
Got to agree, leon did'nt get on with nobby & maybe the same has happened with potter. He's still quality i'd have him back in a flash but i dont think it will happen just yet. To have his best mate back at the club can only help.'"
Well Leon, Nobby and Potter were all at the Bulls together anyway so it might be a long held grudge or whatever. Or more likely that Leon's just being Leon. Good as he was, he was never an 80 minute player and often 'went missing' for ages in games.
I do think there's probably some truth in the idea that he's a bit lost without a creative player at number seven though. Both halves for Saints looked lost in the mist last Saturday.
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| Leon did tend to go missing when the we struggled as a team. He very rarely created something when we had our backs against the wall. I can think only of one example away at Leeds when he got a try in the final minutes to grab a win. Other than that I can't think of much else when we were struggling. Obviously now Saints aren't the dominant force they were Leon is less able to shine.
Having said all that I expect him to have a superb game on Sunday!
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| Quote ="Bulliac"I do think there's probably some truth in the idea that he's a bit lost without a creative player at number seven though. Both halves for Saints looked lost in the mist last Saturday.'"
To be fair to Eastmond though, Pryce was missing with Long alongside him too for much of last season.
The more I think about it, the more I want to see Pryce at centre. Don't think it will happen though.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"
Having said all that I expect him to have a superb game on Sunday!'"
No, agent Leon always has a stinker at Odsal. Its just a pity the rest of the Saints don't follow his lead...
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| Quote ="debaser"No, agent Leon always has a stinker at Odsal. Its just a pity the rest of the Saints don't follow his lead...'"
I think you will find that we will. (With the possible exceptions of Graham, Wheeler - if he's playing - and Roby)
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I think you will find that we will. (With the possible exceptions of Graham, Wheeler - if he's playing - and Roby)'"
Please stop now. You know you are going to turn up and kick our sorry s as usual.
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| Quote ="debaser"Please stop now. You know you are going to turn up and kick our sorry s as usual.'"
Actually, no I don't. I think you'll find that only the tiniest and weeniest minority of Saints fans believe Saints will beat you by any score at all on Sunday. These are the deluded/optimistic among us. I think they number three on these boards and perhaps two on RedVee. On the terraces I didn't hear one person say they thought we would beat you on Sunday.
Not only do we have a dysfunctional team and a dubious coach but we also have a misfiring halfback 'partnership'.
The only way I can see us winning on Sunday is if your halfbacks have yet to gel. Or if you have a man sent off. Or if your defence totally falls apart and your men stand there with a big gap between them so that Saints players can actually figure that they're supposed to run through that gap and score a try. Bless 'em. They can't do it without help these days.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Or if your defence totally falls apart and your men stand there with a big gap between them so that Saints players can actually figure that they're supposed to run through that gap and score a try.'"
There is usually a big hole where Worrincy should be in the defensive line
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"To be fair to Eastmond though, Pryce was missing with Long alongside him too for much of last season.
The more I think about it, the more I want to see Pryce at centre. Don't think it will happen though.'"
Eastmond has the potential to be whatever he wants to be. The world is his oyster. Obviously, potential has to be realised, and it's not being churlish to point out that sometimes it isn't, but the raw talent is awesome. I've never been one for putting kids in a bag marked number seven or number eight and it may well be that he actually realises his full potential elsewhere on the field.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Eastmond has the potential to be whatever he wants to be. '"
I heard that he's backing himself to be the best prop in the world by 2015
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| Eastmond IMO has all the attributes to be the best FB in the country.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Eastmond IMO has all the attributes to be the best FB in the country.'"
Except height! I think he would be squished.
He's definitely got bags of talent but the jury's out as to whether he can lead the guys around the park. That's what we'll find out this season. Until we know, it would be helpful (to Saints, obviously!) if someone else would take on leadership duties so as not to overwhelm the lad and he can take them back bit by bit as his experience and confidence develops.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Except height! I think he would be squished.
He's definitely got bags of talent but the jury's out as to whether he can lead the guys around the park. That's what we'll find out this season. Until we know, it would be helpful (to Saints, obviously!) if someone else would take on leadership duties so as not to overwhelm the lad and he can take them back bit by bit as his experience and confidence develops.'"
Dont need height to play FB.
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| Quote ="chpntpsr"There is usually a big hole where Worrincy should be in the defensive line'"
Is that out wide? If so I wouldn't worry about it, Saints don't attack there any more.
I have been quite supportive of Potter. I even voted FOR him in the redvee.net vote that ended up being quoted in the Sun (spit).
But if we can't beat your boys on Sunday I may be joining the angry mob.
As for Pryce I think Badger hit the nail on the head. Saints need a kevin Sinfield type 13 to back up the halves. Orford and Pryce would be a well balanced combo.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Dont need height to play FB.'"
Jason Robinson's experience there suggests otherwise. And he's a player many have likened to Eastmond as well.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Jason Robinson's experience there suggests otherwise. And he's a player many have likened to Eastmond as well.'"
Billy Slater's no giant is he?
On Robinson I only remember him struggling with the bomb at fullback in RL, he had no problems with defence or attack. He even mastered the taking of the bomb in union so I reckon if he'd been given time he'd have managed to become a good RL fullback. Fact was that he was always going to just be backup there as Wigan had Radlinski.
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"
As for Pryce I think Badger hit the nail on the head. Saints need a kevin Sinfield type 13 to back up the halves. Orford and Pryce would be a well balanced combo.'"
If only you had Paul Sculthorpe in his prime!
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Jason Robinson's experience there suggests otherwise. And he's a player many have likened to Eastmond as well.'"
The only likeness Eastmond has to Robbo is he is black and small.
Completley different kind of players.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"The only likeness Eastmond has to Robbo is he is black and small.'"
And fast. Don't forget fast.
My concern with Kyle as full back is simply his size and whether he would be able to cope with the big blokes and their momentum in try-saving moments. No doubt from an attacking POV he would be first class but defensively I'd be a bit nervous.
The trouble is that when a team finds themselves a gifted halfback it's difficult to know where they would go best as they can play in so many different positions. It's a pity for us that cloning isn't available. We couldn't half do with a full backline of Eastmonds.
Meanwhile ... you're welcome to Leeeeon. His time with us is done unless Potter has some kind of brainwave and sticks him somewhere he will actually be useful.
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| As I said earlier Billy Slater's not a big bloke and he doesn't struggle at fullback.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"As I said earlier Billy Slater's not a big bloke and he doesn't struggle at fullback.'"
He looked bigger than Eastmond, though, when I took a peek at Elland Road last year (and I was very committed in my peek taking, I have to say, especially where Darren Lockyer was concerned ... )
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| Anyone remember Eastmond at odsal last season, from what i recall i remember him going into a tackle with fore arms trying to smash Ben Jeffries head off. He must have been taking some advice from Leon.
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| Quote ="RatedRKO"Anyone remember Eastmond at odsal last season, from what i recall i remember him going into a tackle with fore arms trying to smash Ben Jeffries head off. .'"
I remember it, but I don't think it was malicous, just mis-timed.
Quote ="RatedRKO"He must have been taking some advice from Leon'"
He didn't go for the infamous b0llock squeeze aswell did he?
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