The body language of the players at the end of game was a real concern. Utterly dejected.

Ah, apologies.

That would imply they are bothered.

4 points shy of shipping yet another half century, in our must-win game of the season, against one of the poorest oppositions we will face. Tells you all you want to know about the attitude of some of this team.

Re Cummins - I won't repeat stuff about how he's earned plenty of credit etc but why is he even still here? His words:

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Wel, quite. In the one game we should have been fired up to hell to eat Salford alive, at any cost
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We were. and the thing is Franny it is our normal standard. Which you coach.

No, we weren't. We rarely even do the basics. You btw are responsible for making sure we at least do the basics.

You noticed? Franny - EVERY FSCKER goes through our middle untouched. And down our flanks untouched. This is why when we play they have to negotiate double time for the scoreboard operators and get the scoreboards serviced. Our untouched middle is the main reason we ship 50 or so every week. Btw you are responsible for the middle.

Yes, we did. We always do. You keep confirming. The question could be, WHY can you almost never get them all on the pace?

But on the bright side, they've ensured that that won't be a problem next year.

I am not getting at Cummins, I actually have come to quite respect the guy but after that performance in THAT match, if it was me I can guarantee I would have fallen on my sword. When you play so shiite that even the ref can't stand any more and leaves before the end, you should take a hint.


*Btw hope you're OK George

The players know the basics. There is not a coach anywhere in rugby league that would be able to do anything about the situation at Bradford Bulls. The players heads and hearts are gone, that's nothing to do with the coach.

To a point, i can understand that. However if players aren't playing for the jersey, then Cummins needs to show the nuts to drop them and play the academy lads. He needs to demand more from the players. Motivate them, get some fire in their bellies. Also playing players in right position might help us ever so slightly.

This thread highlights the absolute clueless nature of fans as to how sport works

Support your team, through thick and thin, or dont bother at all

Let's see if you maintain that attitude should your club go through the storm that Bradford have endured over the last few years

I'm sure Starbug could of endured a few of them yrs your talking about, super league has turned its back on clubs like Leigh to fester in the championship and now the like of them Fev, Fax, sheffield, Donny, Batley and Dewsbury are getting prepared for the onslaught, once these league join there will be a few crapping them selves as we will

Because we aren't supporting them how, exactly?




PS How does sport work? I've often wondered that.

Unless there is significant changes to the cap that will allow Leigh, Fev, Fax to be full time, I can't see them getting promoted. I would love them to get promoted, I have always wanted promotion and relegation. But personally I cannot see it.

In reply to Starbug, the only people to come out with any credit from Bulls fiasco the last few years are the Bulls fans. They have stuck by their club through thick and thin. We have applauded our team off countless times when we have been mullered. However it's the lack of effort from the team that is really hurting the fans at the moment!

Anyway Starbug, some saints fans are wanting Brown out and they're top of the league!! I think we're quite patient myself

Sport and RL in particular unlike any other ' normal ' proffession requires massive physical effort combined with highly technical skill, all produced with somebody else doing their best to stop you, again both physically and technically, so to suggest any proffessional RL player has lacked ' effort ' is ridiculous, to do so would be risking serious injury, not forgetting the immense pressure of financial and loyalty impossed by playing for a club that only exists due to its fan base

If your club ever becomes a farm club to Leeds then you'll know what a real storm is.And if your a real fan and a real bradfordian you'll know what real pain is.
It makes you physically sick when you read some of the shiit people write to try to justify it

Then Cummins himself is ridiculous, as he has said just that, for example re the Catalans debacle:



You are strangely looking at the game through rose tinted glasses. Your suggestion that no player in SL ever lacks effort in any game is simplistic, naive and simply not borne out by the evidence of our own eyes.

There seems to no belief in the team. It was nearly half time, when I think it was maybe embarrassment that took over, before too many in a Bulls' shirt actually ran or tackled with much conviction. Then we got the panicky, must score from every play, sort of moves which always end in finding some way to turn over the ball.

I try to be optimistic but it's getting really hard and I have to say it isn't just the team who have given up on staying in SL. SL is over for now but I'm sure we'll get back someday, things tend to go in circles..

Don't panic, your playing us next week.

Also I dont think enough credit has been given to the Devils who at last seem to be bonding under Iestyn Harris. Bulls could well beat HKR next week as we drew with them when not firing at all.

Yes, come on over and help yourself to two points. And improve your points difference.

Don't be so silly. Unless of course they do turn up next week, when we are playing them on Friday.

Anyone who has played sport or RL in particular, whether amateur or pro, knows when they or another player has not put in 100%. I generally tried very hard, some times harder than the week before. To compare the Wigan youngsters effort to some of the Bulls' performances is laughable.

Just out of interest, if there is anyone else to second Starbug's proposition that no pro RL player ever lacks effort, in any game?

I have a curious feeling FC will be sacked today.

Noible "The Saviour" in situe for the Hull KR game this Friday?

I see Koukash has announced the signing of Dobson for next season.

Added to Locke and Jones-Bishop it couldn't illustrate more perfectly the division between our two clubs.

It's galling to think that if Mandy Koukash has succeeded in her bid, then it could be us signing the likes of Dobson - instead we'll be scratching around trying to put together a competitive squad for the lower league from the wreckage of this years squad and whatever is left around once the bigger clubs have signed who they want....

Can't say I am overly impressed with the WINNING BIDDER up to press.We have just accelerated our mediocrity to a sure fire relegation.No fight,blood,sweat or tears-----Zilch.
If I was in charge,sackings would already be made,get the NEW GUYS in place and SEND a CLEAR message out the few fans we have left---WE ARE GOING STRAIGHT BACK UP.
Stay as we are---no ticket sales----very few fans.
Maybe that's too easy?

FFS DO SOMETHING!!!!