Bottom five? How does that work? Do they not need 12 teams in the league next year?
I still don't get it!

Ironically the RFL fans survey dropped into my email box yesterday too. They want to know how well they're doing, and what the fans think of them! I hope whoever reads mine isn't easily offended. I should imagine there's slim chances of the results ever being published, but I don't imagine their approval ratings from BD postcodes will be that high.

yes: 14 plus 2 superleague demoted plus one Ch1 promoted minus 5 Ch demoted = 12.

The real mockery is the fat mans huge wage packet. How can someone so incompetent earn so much!!!!

He's underpaid, but sticks it out as they also pour ungodly amounts into a whacking great pension pot

Signed.

Though I share the view of others that it won't work. If petitions actually did anything they'd be illegal.

I do feel it's only right that the RFL know peoples' feelings though, but I guess they are in full defensive mode right now.

Incidentally, I disagree with the view that ALL keighley fans are against the Bulls - a few keyboard warriors is far from all Keighley fans and in any case, what is wrong is wrong, whoever is involved and this is plain wrong.

Also signed. It's wrong. It's funny, but it's wrong.

signed. If theres evidence others broke the rules why arent the RFL testing that evidence by punishing those clubs, then appointing the same members to the appeal tribunal that would be bound to follow. if they approved the appeal they would then have to rescind their previous decision, if they upheld the punishment they would have to rescind their previous decision. But no doubt there's special circumstances that allow the RFL to do what they want and *** to being fair. A cheats charter.

You're probably forgetting that York have been promoted.

Oh I know that, but off this site I know 3 Keighley fans in the real world, all three hate us and have not been backwards in telling me so this past year and how much they enjoyed our relegation. So 100% of the Keighley fans I know are against the Bulls.



But I have signed the petition, despite it having zero chance to change anything, as like you say, this is just plain wrong from the rfl as far as I can see, and I hope its put right, despite the possible benefit to Keighley

I don't think they have. As far as I know they need to their win grand final or finishing top counts for zip.

If i understand it right,last season loads of clubs broke the rules, but we cant really punish them now can we ? so the rfl have said because we cant punish them,we cant really punish clubs who have done the same this season,so they've given donny and batley there points back

Unlikely that the majority of Bulls fans, would feel so vindictive towards the Cougars being relegated. To be honest the whole structure of the way the Bonus points have taken away the right of the teams is wrong IMO.Those teams who have won the most games to be below teams in the league simply because they have lost games by less than 12 points, thus not earning an extra bonus point because of it.
In Keighley's case it so happened they won 12 games which was the same as Whitehaven and Batley (after restoration of the 3 deducted points) but the 1 draw was the difference. It's a great shame that a team that suffered the loss of it's player coach for a month, courtesy of the judiciary panel at the RFL, at probably a critical time in the season is being placed in the near amateur ranks of a lower division. Let's hope they can survive it all? Like you I believe a petition will be a waste of time, as they unfortunately could not say that Batley would have replaced them as relegated, if the status had remained, ie that a point deduction hadn't been made in the first instance. Keighley would still be a point adrift due to the fact Batley had drawn a game which Keighley hadn't. Harsh isn't the word for the farcical situation the RFL have created for the whole game.

The role need a rocket. It's about time the whole game was run in a professional manner. It makes me sick that our sports been left in the hands of a team of tozzers. It really needs a shake up.

Why cannot the RFL punish them now? points clearly irrelevant as the season is gone, so it would need to be a fine, ban on signing any new players or similar.

It can. There is no reason I can think of why a punishment HAS to be in the same season. In the case of administrations (where we have some expertise) the rule already states that if you go tits in the close season then the deduction will be for the new season.

If a player is cited to the disciplinary for serious foul play, after the last game of the season finishes, he will still be banned. His ban will start in the next season.

Logically, the argument that the alleged infringements occurred in a previous season is just a smoke and mirrors excuse, and a poor one at that. And that doesn't even address the bizarre precedent which now seems to be that any club breaking the same rule in the future can't, for the same reasons, ever be punished.

Just a reminder of the attitude of some Keighley fans when we were going through our troubles….



On news FC was sacked:

















Unfortunately there weren’t as many voices of moderation but here’s one that seemed to be outnumbered.

Well, I forgive them Bullseye, for they know not what they say.



It's all part of following sports teams anyway - when in doubt give your nearest and 'dearest' a good metaphorical kicking and, of course, a message board is the safest place to do it as the worst that can happen is that you get some metaphorical sand in your face.

As I've said before many times, in my opinion all fans are much of a muchness; we're all biased, and think the world is against us and tend to reserve a special dislike for our nearest neighbour clubs. My problem is that I meet quite a few fans from many clubs and, one on one in conversation, it's pretty clear that there is much more which binds us together as RL fans than can ever separate us.

Oooh you’re such a forgiving chap Bulliac.

I know a few Cougars. I don't know what they say in the confines of the bar at Cougar Park.....? but they are generally a sensible lot. Like most fans to be honest and, not withstanding our own problems, I think you tend to feel for people in their situation. In any case, I'm [whilst defintely not wanting to come over all George Osborneish feeling that we're on the road to recovery, so can be magnanimous.

B***dy hell quoted on the Bulls Board being nice to em ..my reputation is in tatters....







That's it wont be being allowed back into the Hallowed Ground of Cougar Park without first 'renouncing the Robbie' and publicly saying three 'hail Marchy's'....

Haven won 13 games not 12,town and batley finished above us winning 12

Batley escaped relegation on last day, playing in play offs today

Apologies my friend, you won more games yet were below thee other two...proves the BP system is seriously flawed>

Bonus points in plenty of sports leads to teams finishing lower than other teams who have won less games. But everyone is playing to the same system and each club knows the rules at the start of the season... oh s . . .
Yes I agree with the petition but sue the RFL in court for massive compensation and go to sports aribitration.
I don't think much will be done in house, but legally they are in the wrong. Don't mention morality as they don't have morals or the game they run would be much better.