....about how we were gifted GF victory by Ben Flower's red card, Wigan fail to beat 12 man Widnes.... ... ... and make themselves look like a right bunch of tits in the process.

Good point, well presented.

I thought so too.

It was a great watch. Had everything!

you forgot Shaun Waynes post match comments in which he commented on Charnleys injury disrupting their organisation.

Something which it did do of course as players had to alter their positions.

That however strangely slipped his mind with regard to the grand final.

I think there is a valid argument that losing a winger to injury isn't as big a disruption as losing a half back.

They haven't changed at all. Phil Clarke was very quiet at ft

Come off it, you know Wiganers would not try to come up with excuses about being a man up/ or is that down / or or or....

I'm confused is it better to have a man sent off or not.

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Their general behaviour goes to show all of Eric Pollard's press releases and heartfelt outpourings of regret were nothing but sound bites. Wigan, it seems, spent the entire off season planning how they could attack kickers. They always come up with a new initiative at the start of the season. Chicken wing, cannon ball, crocodile death role, they were the first in SL to bring them all in. Now it seems they've gone back to an old favourite of our's and will attack kickers all season. There were a couple of really bad ones tonight where they had no right at all to touch the player yet went high with swinging arms.

There is a thread on the Wigan board where some of their fans are bemoaning the attitude of Wane and his players. They admit choosing little ginger Farrell as the new enforcer is a farcical decision. He was always a player who was a success because of his numbers, the volume of tackles and hit ups he did. Now, they are bringing a Kray mainframe in at Opta just to count the penalties he concedes. Joel Tomkins anyone? You have to wonder how he gets by in day to day life. I can imagine him attacking the post man or the neighbour's dog, purely at random with no provocation. They look so easy to wind up, there are a few savvy players in SL who must be licking their lips at the prospect of lighting the touch paper and watching as Wigan explode.

I'm surprised nobody as mentioned Tautai's interview on Granada Reports tonight.
For anyone who didn't see it, the narrator said,
''Tautai is new to Wigan, but as been drilled to use that loss to Saints as motivation.''
Cuts to Tautai who says,
''I HATE THEM! That's pretty much what we are taught here. That's what drives us on.''

Proper cringe worthy, pathetic, toe curling moment.

Could Sutton be the new Flower, good player he is ,it looks as though Wane has got him to play aggressive, he could cause a lot of damage if he mis times one of those tackles.
I thought Wigoons tactics could have been a lot worse, they have Paddy Wack and Fisty Flower to come back into the side.

I know that Wigan get too close to the edge at times, but it would be a sad day if we started to think a young prop throwing his weight around was a bad thing.

FIOS

The goons learned zilch from the GF, specifically how to beat twelve men.

That Tautai thing is embarrassing.
I just don't understand the mentality of people saying 'I hate them'. That goes for fans and players alike. No matter how much you enjoy rugby, it's just a game at the end of the day and there are FAR more important things in life. I can never understand the vitriol shown towards other teams/players/fans by people on here as well. As supposed grown ups it's a bit embarrassing to 'hate' people based on rugby. Tautai's comments are no exception. People seriously need to grow up



On a different note, your squad looks even better this year, personally I think you or Warrington will win the GF (although I hope Wigan do obviously). Good luck for the season ahead.