I think Saddened! posted a thread about him on the VT. If possible, we should be rescuing him from the Dulls. Got the potential to be up there with Graham for the next 10 years. At a club like ours he could become one of the very, very best in the game.

It's occasions like this I wish we had a little money to use for transfer fees.

I was thinking exactly the same thing watching the game tonight. He would add even more impact to our game and would bring welcome relief to the game time of Graham.

We should give them Gilmour (Loughlin), Cunningham (Dwyer) and Bryn (Sonny) and £400,000.

Bonus is he's not scared of flying either.

Thats a bit mercenary when we could get him for at least 145,000 in respect of Bradford's due placement

Yes and lets destroy the team spirit as well



Burgess is excellent, but the salary cap IMO rules him out of contention for Saints this year. Remember our priority is a centre.

I wasn't being serious. I was referring back to the last big star Bradford had and our acquisition of him.

but bear in mind our free centre allegedly arriving next season we could well accommodate this transfer under the cap?

With the people we got rid of last year we could get SBW under our cap!

I actually dont think JL will be here until 2011 when his contract ends, not before

A lad at work knows the Burgess family and I cheekily asked him once to ask Sam to sign for saints in the future. This lad told me hes a yorkshire lad through and through and the only team he would possibly play for other than the bulls is Leeds. He also said that Sams dream is for all 4 of the Burgess' to line up for the same team.

And Connolly will never leave saints

Never understood him signing up to the dulls for such a long time. Very bizzare decision from him, I presume they came up with the coin he wantd that nobody else could match.. he isnt staying there to win things is he.

Hasn't he only recently signed a new contract with Bulls?

correct

I bet he wishes he hadnt

I can see a day when a 45 year old Jamie Lyon, who has been retired for 10 years finally confirms he's no intention of coming back to Saints

Mal Meninga mkII, he'll be coming back as head coach when he's 90.

It may just be me, but he doesn't look half as good as he did last year. Graham by plenty!

Coming back from a shoulder injury and is playing in a pack of minges.

He has been a bit of a shadow of himself since he came back from his shoulder op. That said the bulls have 0 confidence right now, so this could be a factor

I understand what you're saying, it is difficult to play outstanding rugby in a poor side. But, you need your big players to stand up when the chips are down and you'd have to consider Burgess in that bracket. He's definitely not delivering at the moment. He doesn't look as powerful last season, he seems sluggish to me.

He looks very sluggish at the minute and isn't playing the game at the pace were used to with him where he crashes into tackles and hammers people in defence.

It's either a fitness problem or a motivation problem imo.

He had a shoulder reconstruction recently didn't he? Thats bound to take a long time to recover from just in terms of confidence. He's probably not been able to do anything like the work in the gym he would have normally done in an off season. I reckon by the end of the season he'll be smashin n' crashin again.

With that shoulder injury and his current failure to discover form he would be considered an expensive risk at the moment. He's not helped by being coached by McNamara, who is yet another unproven coach who walked into one of the top jobs in the league. I can't see Burgess staying there if the side doesn't improve this year and McNamara is still there next year.

Isn't he still only 19/20 though?

Very young indeed for a forward, and if you take that into account along with the shoulder reconstruction then it's no big surprise he isn't setting the world on fire every weekend.

I'd be more than happy if we signed him; unless he's very unlucky with injuries then by the time he's 24 he'll be absolutely immense.

The lad's finished, end of. Got totally smashed last night by a rampant Jon Clarke