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| Quote ="kendall17"So it is only Chicken wing tackles that cause this type of injury?'"
Please give it a rest
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| Quote ="Birkbygiant"Please give it a rest
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Maybe, if they admit that it may not have been the JJB & KS that caused this injury.
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| Quote ="kendall17"Maybe, if they admit that it may not have been the JJB & KS that caused this injury.'"
It's never going to happen and neither will you back down.
About time you put your effort into something else, it's pointless neither of you can prove it one way or the other.
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| Ignoring the Leeds fans on this, I hope it isn't serious and we're just giving his shoulder an extra week to heal. I think it'll do him the world of good. We need him more than most firing in the Play Offs.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Ignoring the Leeds fans on this, I hope it isn't serious and we're just giving his shoulder an extra week to heal. I think it'll do him the world of good. We need him more than most firing in the Play Offs.'"
Agreed. He gets through a ridiculous amount of work and, inadvertently, this could do him the world of good.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Ignoring the Leeds fans on this, I hope it isn't serious and we're just giving his shoulder an extra week to heal. I think it'll do him the world of good. We need him more than most firing in the Play Offs.'"
Agreed.
We need him on the field
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| Terrible. If he's out for the season we can kiss any faint hopes we had goodbye.
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| Quote ="kendall17" I'll do that when you've proven that JJB caused Graham's injury.
Til then i'll defend my corner'"
Christ, a professional has said so, is that not enough?
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| Quote ="MSH"Christ, a professional has said so, is that not enough?
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The same pro that let him play on "knowing" apparently the full extent of the injury
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| Quote ="MSH"Christ, a professional has said so, is that not enough?'"
Nope it isn't I'm afraid. The professional concerned could stake his reputation on the argument that the KFC caused the injury, a professional from Leeds however could find otherwise, result is that the fowl on Jammer really is inconclusive as to being the cause to any injury to his rotator cuff.
Just because a professional has spoken out on the matter doesn't mean it's 100% certain, after all, when you get professionals cutting players mouths deliberately to back up an on-field occurrence (Ok in Onion, but still a professional nonetheless), whoever pays the wages will have the last say on what and what isn't the cause.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Terrible. If he's out for the season we can kiss any faint hopes we had goodbye.'"
I think you will see a miraculous recovery next week
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| Quote ="Rixy"Nope it isn't I'm afraid. The professional concerned could stake his reputation on the argument that the KFC caused the injury, a professional from Leeds however could find otherwise, result is that the fowl on Jammer really is inconclusive as to being the cause to any injury to his rotator cuff.
Just because a professional has spoken out on the matter doesn't mean it's 100% certain, after all, when you get professionals cutting players mouths deliberately to back up an on-field occurrence (Ok in Onion, but still a professional nonetheless), whoever pays the wages will have the last say on what and what isn't the cause.'"
What they said
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| Quote ="Rixy"Nope it isn't I'm afraid. The professional concerned could stake his reputation on the argument that the KFC caused the injury, a professional from Leeds however could find otherwise, result is that the fowl on Jammer really is inconclusive as to being the cause to any injury to his rotator cuff.'"
Love it...Freudian Slip
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| Quote ="kendall17"So it is only Chicken wing tackles that cause this type of injury?'"
FFS. Give it a rest.
Chicken wing tackles cause rotator cuff injuries - FACT.
James Graham suffered a chicken wing tackle - FACT.
The chicken wing tackle in question was deemed to have the potential to cause injury and JJB was found GUILTY of the offence by an independent panel - FACT.
It doesn't take fecking Columbo to work out why Graham is not playing against Catalan.
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| Quote Injuries Rotator Cuff Tear
The tendons at the ends of the rotator cuff muscles can become torn, leading to pain and restricted movement of the arm. A torn rotator cuff can occur following a trauma to the shoulder =redor it can occur through "wear and tear" of the tendons (most commonly that of the supraspinatus) under the acromion.
It is an injury frequently sustained by athletes whose duties involve making repetitive throws, such as baseball pitchers, American football quarterbacks, volleyball (due to their swinging motions), water polo players, shotput throwers (due to using poor technique), swimmers, boxers, kayaking, fast bowlers in cricket, and tennis players (due to their service motion).'"
HTH
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| Quote ="Rixy"Nope it isn't I'm afraid. The professional concerned could stake his reputation on the argument that the KFC caused the injury, a professional from Leeds however could find otherwise, result is that the fowl on Jammer really is inconclusive as to being the cause to any injury to his rotator cuff.
Just because a professional has spoken out on the matter doesn't mean it's 100% certain, after all, when you get professionals cutting players mouths deliberately to back up an on-field occurrence (Ok in Onion, but still a professional nonetheless), whoever pays the wages will have the last say on what and what isn't the cause.'"
Hmm, good placement
I'm sure the pro in question is well aware of that, and whats to say Leeds' one is 100% correct? Does seem rather strange that JJB has been found guilty and Graham is out the next game. Not all injuries kick in straight away, but tend to afterwards. (perhaps a reason Graham went straight off, the pain was starting?)
And that was an isolated incident of blatent cheating (the whole 'Bloodgate' thing), can't use that as an example.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"HTH
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Do you know how old James Graham is?
Assuming you do, I would suggest that it isn't wear and tear. If it was, props an awful lot older than him would have been going down like flies for years. However, they have not.
You're now sounding as silly as your fellow Leeds fans on here.
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| You should have cut off the rest of your post as Graham doesn't frequently make any of the motions required for it to be a wear and tear problem.
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| Well, it took 10 minutes for a Whino to respond (as Damo is a baboon, he's omitted) to the initial post. You lot sure don't hang around....
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| Quote ="Saddened!"You should have cut off the rest of your post as Graham doesn't frequently make any of the motions required for it to be a wear and tear problem.'"
He made at least one about 2 minutes after writhing in agony on the floor.
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| The way Graham this season has been more a battering ram, he is no way like the player he was, partly due to the way Potter is using him.
I am no way a Leeds supporter, but if the Graham injury was down to Leeds who is guilty then at St Helens for the injury to Sinfield?
Players get injured in rugby league and it is a sad day if medical teams try to put the blame on one player and one incident. No wonder there is bad feeling with the two teams, everyone need to calm down.
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| Quote ="jaybs"I am no way a Leeds supporter, but if the Graham injury was down to Leeds who is guilty then at St Helens for the injury to Sinfield?'"
Sinfield clashed heads accidentally with Maurie.
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| Quote ="jaybs"I am no way a Leeds supporter, but if the Graham injury was down to Leeds who is guilty then at St Helens for the injury to Sinfield?'"
Clash of heads. (And it was only bruising in the end, no break)
Quote Players get injured in rugby league and it is a sad day if medical teams try to put the blame on one player and one incident. No wonder there is bad feeling with the two teams, everyone need to calm down.'"
One thing having a clash of heads; another entirely to spend time deliberately pushing back a player's arm and shoulder to the point where injury is caused.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Clash of heads. (And it was only bruising in the end, no break)
One thing having a clash of heads; another entirely to spend time deliberately pushing back a player's arm and shoulder to the point where injury is caused.'"
The simple solution is obvious.
The RFL simply have to ban any attempt to turtle or turn a player once he has made initial contact with the ground.
End Of.
No one wants to see ANY player deliberately injured and I suspect thats the basis of JJBs appeal although I do think it is a dangerous move and could easily backfire.
The game is hard enough and accidental contact will always occour in a full contact sport. I have not seen one single complaint about Sinfields injury to date.
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| I'm equally as concerned with the hair pulling that is creeping into the game. I mean, come on... pulling f'ckin' hair??!?!
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