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| Quote ="St pete"I've no problem with players trying bully players and intimidate players like the Wigan pack has done to ours over recent seasons but I don't like the hitting late off the ball. We lost o'brian and gardner to late challenges by Wigan last year.'"
Have to agree there. There's been a lot of exaggeration when it comes to Wigan's defence, but it's clear to me that every once in a while our props go too far when closing down opposition pivots; and (moronically) seem drawn to putting in the hit when, really, they should be pulling out because the ball has gone. Taylor has been guilty of this impulsive stupidity for sure a few times, Dudson and McIlorum too.
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| Quote ="Bovrick"Have to agree there. There's been a lot of exaggeration when it comes to Wigan's defence, but it's clear to me that every once in a while our props go too far when closing down opposition pivots; and (moronically) seem drawn to putting in the hit when, really, they should be pulling out because the ball has gone. Taylor has been guilty of this impulsive stupidity for sure a few times, Dudson and McIlorum too.'"
Like I said, I've nothing against a pack being rough, intimidating and aggressive but I don't like off the ball cheap shots. They are dangerous and cause damage. The attacking player naturally relaxes when the ball has gone so not prepared for the impact off the ball.
A certain Paul Deacon dislocated my jaw a long time a go from a off the late shot. I quickly learned to raise my elbow (Bobbie Goulding style) to protect myself after the ball has gone
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| Quote ="St pete"Who cares if stood straight in from or not. He's a cheap shot artist but I don't think he'd back down from anyone either which I like in a player but I don't like his cheap shots.'"
All i am saying is he is far from a coward. A coward in my opinion is a ryan bailey likes to kick off with people a lot smaller than him and then backs up till the rest of the team joins in.
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| Quote ="dubairl"All i am saying is he is far from a coward. A coward in my opinion is a ryan bailey likes to kick off with people a lot smaller than him and then backs up till the rest of the team joins in.'"
I don't think mcilorom is a coward but his cheap shots are cowardly.
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| More important than the inquest, does anyone know whether the X-Ray showed anything up?
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"More important than the inquest, does anyone know whether the X-Ray showed anything up?'"
I expect to find out tonight or tomorrow. From what I got told yesterday, they don't think anything is broke.
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| Quote ="St pete"I expect to find out tonight or tomorrow. From what I got told yesterday, they don't think anything is broke.'"
That's good news, priority number 1 of last night was getting through unscathed!
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"That's good news, priority number 1 of last night was getting through unscathed!'"
From what I've been told, nothing has been broken. Will have to wait and see I suppose.
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| A big worry for me was how we played the ruck. Wigan completely dominated that part of the game and in our struggle to fight against it our discipline slipped. I think Bentham was getting a bit carried away though, considering it was a friendly.
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| I really don't think we can dive off the deep end on a friendly.
This time last year we had just beaten Huddersfield in a Friendly, people were tipping us to win the league. Then a week later we got mullered by the very same team at the same ground.
Lets at least give them a couple of competitive games before we throw the towel in.
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| I think some of you guys have unrealistic expectations of the season ahead. Saints played better than I expected and it was a good standard for a friendly. You will be in the top 5 again this year
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| just watching the game on Wigan TV and the one thing that sticks out is that Wigan's pack defiantly made the most meters and for the majority of the time on top.
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| also the tackle from flower was marginally late, it wasn't from a kick it was a pass and literally there was mili seconds in it. He then collides into Amor who was standing in the space he was running at.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I really don't think we can dive off the deep end on a friendly.
This time last year we had just beaten Huddersfield in a Friendly, people were tipping us to win the league. Then a week later we got mullered by the very same team at the same ground.
Lets at least give them a couple of competitive games before we throw the towel in.'"
Apart from the mass substitutions I thought it was more like a regular game the way the players went at it. It was a very different game from the Huddersfield friendly and from what I saw we need a massive improvement to even be close to winning anything this year.
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| The Walsh injury looks like a complete mash up of Walsh, Amor and Flower on Wigan TV (think its flower anyway).
There is only one camera angle but there didnt seem to be anything in it, just a collision really.
Hopefully nothing broken.
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| Hope Walsh is OK.
From behind the sticks it looked as though Walsh and Amor had collided. Both ended up on the ground with Walsh staying down.
Enjoyed it and it was a "trial" game to me more than a friendly or warm up game.
There was little friendly about it and no one seemed to be warming up.
I thought Wigan started slower than Saints probably due to the previous week when Saints played and Wigan didn't.
Both sides will be looking at their penalty count against as with that number it would be difficult to win any SL game.
A good tight game - 16-18 with 7 mins to go.
Really looking forward to the season now.
BTW anyone know the crowd on last night?
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the hit on walsh.
Thats a shoulder charge if ever there was one, you cant tell how high it was, but there is no effort at all to make a tackle, just to take walsh out
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Thats a shoulder charge if ever there was one, you cant tell how high it was, but there is no effort at all to make a tackle, just to take walsh out
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| he realized that the ball had gone, that is not even close to being a shoulder charge. he's arms where up but realized the ball had gone hence the reason he looks behind him as soon as it happens.
He clearly is looking for a big hit walsh sees that draws him and passes it but flower can't disappear. Its less than a second late and it was hardly dirty no matter how bias you can be against Wigan or what ever previous Wigan have.
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| Quote ="dubairl"he realized that the ball had gone, that is not even close to being a shoulder charge. he's arms where up but realized the ball had gone hence the reason he looks behind him as soon as it happens.
He clearly is looking for a big hit walsh sees that draws him and passes it but flower can't disappear. Its less than a second late and it was hardly dirty no matter how bias you can be against Wigan or what ever previous Wigan have.'"
I'm not saying its late, and of course he doesnt have time to stop but hes not trying to make a tackle, its a shoulder charge pure and simple.
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| seriously thats not a shoulder charge and of course he is trying to make a tackle but realize the ball has gone and pulls out of it its just a collision. You would have to be soft to call foul play for that.
A shoulder charge is where a player makes no attempt with his arms and turns the shoulder into the tackle with his arms down by the side. You will see that kind of collision at least once a game.
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| Quote ="dubairl"You will see that kind of collision at least once a game.'"
you see it at least twice a game because you watch wigan!
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| i would be more upset if i didn't see it as players wouldn't be committing to tackles. Even the most die hard saints fan must thats not foul play.
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| It's hard to see where contact was on that video. It's whether the injury was a result of Flower's tackle (Walsh hurt his jaw so it would be then a high tackle) or the collision with Amor.
Either way I wouldn't say it was late.
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| Definitely not a late tackle but if it's that contact which has led to a facial injury it's a high tackle without use of the arms. I wouldn't class it as intentional but I would say it's dangerous and reckless. Flower could be looking at a couple of games but the angle is inconclusive as to the origin of the contact.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"https://vine.co/v/Mzdrbhg6x3v
the hit on walsh.
Thats a shoulder charge if ever there was one, you cant tell how high it was, but there is no effort at all to make a tackle, just to take walsh out'"
It's not a shoulder charge, it's an attempt at a ball and all tackle. The arms were wrapped around but only briefly as Flower realised the ball had gone.
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