Turner is not a hate figure for me or a scapegoat. But I have to question, if you take the name away and keep the same performances and call his Foster, or Gardner or Dawson, would he be getting a rest????

I think he would. The issue with picking out of form players week after week is that the name alone is what they are getting picked on.

Turner has had weeks of poor form. He has put his hand up and said so himself. To me he is still talented, but needs to get his head on. Picking him week after week, just means good or bad he is in and someone else is out.
If he is dropped, he could easily work his way back into the team given a month or two. But call him foster and say whether he should play next week?

I don't hate Turner, I've no problem as a person but as a rugby player is frustrating. He IMO doesn't acquire the attitude and commitment to be a top centre.

He's basically a average winger playing in the centre.

But he's not a winger. I don't think he's ever played wing, and generally, before he moved to saints, played further infield.

Just looks like a winger to me.

I can't Believe we even tried him at 6! He was worse there. He'd do his run across and then that slo predictable drop off.

Some even called for him to play in the pack

We've been spoilt for quality centres particularly during the summer era. Newlove, Iro, Gleeson, Lyon, Gibbs, Talau, Gidley etc who could create a bit of magic & turn a game on its head. I'm sorry but Jordan Turner's not in the same league as the players I've mentioned. And if some fans believe he is, then we really have settled for mediocrity.

When was the last time we had a quality centre?

Or


When was the last the we actually had two out and out proper centres?

Played most of his junior rugby at 13 - which explains why he struggles with positional sense now I suppose.

He don't look like a winger to me - he has the body shape and attributes to be a quality centre - and we saw the potential of that last year. But, recently, his flaws have been exposed and he's looked poor. That doesn't make him a winger.

Jones and Percival?

Turner is a proper centre, whether or not he is a good one is a matter of opinion. So yeah as MS said atm we have two at the moment.

You honestly think he can be a quality centre? Really?

Come on!

Maybe a average centre.

I'd say Matt Gidley. Shenton was alright but wasn't top quality IMO. Percival has got the ingredients to be a quality centre but he's got a lot to learn yet.

The Pansy doesn't look like a rugby player at the moment, never mind a centre.

Percy looks like he has a bit of class about him. Great potential but needs to sort his defensive reads and execution out.

Has the potential to? Yes. Performed so far - very good centre. Performed recently - direly.

Last season he was ok, certainly not quality.

Form doesn't make him any less of a centre.

Turner has done nothing for Saints to suggest we would want to extend his contract. If there is anyone of any level of class in the academy or out of contract, I'd suggest he's fairly close to the door now. Terrible defensively and no way near what he should be in attack.

Not sure what that means tbh.

Wasn't he our player of the year last year?!

Yes but how many on here actually thought he had any chance at all of getting it?

I didn't even think he'd be anywhere near our player of the year.

Quote ="Saint Simon"Wasn't he our player of the year last year?!'" www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3330 - and yes, I thought it was deserved. On his day he's a very good centre (with signs to say he has the potential to be "quality"icon_wink.gif - being woefully out of form doesn't change that (nor does it change the fact he's been very poor in the last month or so). Over the long term, Percival and Jones should be our centres (so even if people want turner gone, we have the players) where that would leave turner depend entirely on recapturing last years form...

Quote ="Saint Simon"Wasn't he our player of the year last year?!'" www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3330 - and yes, I thought it was deserved. On his day he's a very good centre (with signs to say he has the potential to be "quality"icon_wink.gif - being woefully out of form doesn't change that (nor does it change the fact he's been very poor in the last month or so). Over the long term, Percival and Jones should be our centres (so even if people want turner gone, we have the players) where that would leave turner depend entirely on recapturing last years form...

He did well last year which buys some recovery time bug he is not undroppable.

Needs a rest v landan.

He shouldn't be playing against London but I certainly wouldn't call it a rest.

A good man manager would

You said you don't think he is a proper centre, but you're basing that on recent form.