On a purely pragmatic level I'd like Warrington to win. I think Wigan have the measure of us tactically at the moment, and there's work to be done before we can take them in a big game. Warrington have a fantastic squad but on a good day we can beat them, I reckon.

Interesting one this, 2 seasons ago I would have shouted 'Warrington' without hesitation.

However from Warrington's recent 'success', a strong vein of their fans have such an unbearable arrogance that I'm not sure I could stand it if they won 3 in a row. Couple this with the fact that these arrogant fans also seem to have a large amount of ignorance when it comes to rugby league knowledge then it becomes slightly edged to Wigan for me.

At least most Wigan fans generally know what they're talking about in Rugby League discussions. Wigan to win for me.

Jesus, it's like choosing between chlamydia and gonorrhea - both are unpleasant and I don't want either.

Warrington Wigan and Saints are like scissors paper stone.

Wire beats Wigan but Wigan beats Saint and Saints beat Wire

strong vein of fans..............? about ten simpletons on the internet more like.

and the average RL discussion with a wigan fan goes like this
"is "... insert Wigan Players Name here..." the best " ...insert his position here..." in the World ?"

I have yet to see a topic on the Wire board where any Wire fan thinks Billy Slater is Rubbish and not as good as say Brian Johnson or Dave Lyon....

but if thats how you feel

Spot on

so you would be upset if sam tomkins,leleuai and say carmont were out til november
and for the wires
briers, westwood and i dont know, king or monaghan??
or any 3 from each team.

i m not wishing death on them.

would just be interesting to see how they did with some key players out as we have done nearly all season.

I love the 'trouble with the Wire fans is they're all arrogant' speech.

Wigan fans practically invented the word and us Wire fans have had their arrogance rammed down our throats for years, the 2nd we even remotely mention anything positive we're arrogant?

What's wrong with us saying we have a great team when we so evidently do right now?
What's wrong with saying we think we'll win games when we are 2nd and have the shield in our own destiny?

The trouble with all these successful teams is they can't take another mouth at the table of meagre offerings.

Arrogant maybe, but Wigan and to a slightly lesser extent Saints have been guilty of it in bundles.

still enjoying your day time tv mate or you fully recovered now??

Are you feeling insecure per chance?

Nope, we're better than you this season




Nah mate, on light duties at work, i'm one of those sad/stupid people who comes back too early, i hate being off sick.
Not 100% but enough to be of some use, i think i'd have chewed my own face off if i had another week off.

I would have agreed with you before our match at the HJ but now I'm not so sure. With Pryce back in action and Eastmond at fullback, and who knows who else fit and firing ... I'd say you've caught up to us at last.



It would be an interesting contest between us if we both played a match with a fully fit team each.

I'm just hoping for a good tough game, not to get anyone injured. Just a good few bruises.

Wire to win.

Where do you get this Wire "arrogance" from. We have a good team at the moment and have had stick off most of you for lots of years when you've clearly been the better side. We have won more the past two years and most of the banter is just a bit of payback. Most Wire fans probably don't think we can win the grand final due to not being great in close games. Come on our board trying to belittle us and you're gonna get stick back. We have a good team at the moment and have come along way in the past two years. We're good now after years of medicoruty and some of you have a problem dealing with it for some reason. We have a good youth system in place, players like Chris Hill and Waterhouse want to come to us now, our own stadium, a great coach and in Simon Moran we have a backer who will pretty much spend whatever it takes for us to be successful if needed. We don't have the recent history that Saints and Wigan have, we hopefully have a lot to look forward to in the future. To join together in an a'rse kissing contest with your fiercest rivals is both cringeworthy and lame. Accept that we're a decent setup now instead of being bitter about it and moaning.

'To join together in an a'rse kissing contest with your fiercest rivals is both cringeworthy and lame. Accept that we're a decent setup now instead of being bitter about it and moaning.'

Here! Here!

We've some much flack and pi$$ taking over the years from you lot. Not to
mention all the put downs and arrogance that 'you'll never beat us'.

Funny how things change. 2 CCs in a row for us and nowt in 3 years for
you so expect to get some stick back. I also know which team and club
i'd rather be with at the moment and it's not Saints. Am I being
arrogant in saying that?

You'd be right about that. I'd even support an Aussie side in the WCC if they were playing Wigan. Wire every time.

Signed

A Saints Fan Aged 41

I'm ashamed to admit that I have, on occasion, supported Wigan in WCC games. I have a whole new level of antipathy towards the cons having travelled over there watching GB/England a couple of times.

I would prefer to beat either team at full strength so there are no excuses.

I've got a Harry Hill moment...
I mean, I hate Dire.... but I hate the pie's...

There's only one way to find out.....
26 man brawl & 5 match ban to all players




But I hate Dire more than Goons

So C'mon Piemen (I feel dirty)

Telling me to accept this statement is just plain arrogance!







Come on your up there to get shot at, if you don't like it why not take a points deduction.

For years Saints have been critisised for the same + other things totally unrelated to the game on the pitch. No doubt if you win the GF, the attendance watchers will come out and point out that you do not get the best attendances and try to use that as a means of getting at you.

It's sport it comes with the tribalism.


Come on you Pie's beat the arrogant crew.



Personally I still think we'll whip the both of ya come the crunch games.

Wire by plenty hopefully.

Wigan just play a style of RL which obviously works for them but is frankly boring and shouldnt be encouraged.

I want to see attacking flair not rugged defence, gamesmanship and high punts.

Also Wigan not going back to wembley is a bonus.

I don't reckon there's another club in SL that move the ball wide with as mouch precision os the pies.

Quite suprised how split this has been, a few years ago it would be 100% Wire win.

Funny that, 2nd top point scorers last season and our winger was man of steel, which tells me, we must move the ball about quite a lot. Also the lad that played half back for us last season was young player of the year.