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| Seems to have blown up abit since JJB decided to appeal...
I love how he says 'it is taught to damage players' - who'd teach that? and how he goes on to say JJB did it deliberately. Hmm
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"however, for Saints and Wigan to be in the final together, Leeds would have to choose to play Wigan. I suspect Leeds would choose Hull KR or Huddersfield over Wigan.'"
Maybe, coz Wigan is one team that could knock them out.
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| Quote ="kendall17"I love how he says 'it is taught to damage players' - who'd teach that? '"
You tell us, since it was one of your players who deliberately did it to one of ours.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You tell us, since it was one of your players who deliberately did it to one of ours.'"
Prove that it was deliberate and i'll refrain from posting on your board.
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| Quote ="kendall17"Prove that it was deliberate and i'll refrain from posting on your board.'"
No.
FECK OFF!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"No.
FECK OFF!'"
Does that mean you can't prove it then?
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| Quote ="kendall17"Prove that it was deliberate and i'll refrain from posting on your board.'"
Which attempt? The 1st, the 2nd, the 3rd or the 4th?
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| Quote ="wellensWASno1"Which attempt? The 1st, the 2nd, the 3rd or the 4th?'"
All of them
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| Quote ="kendall17"Seems to have blown up abit since JJB decided to appeal...
I love how he says 'it is taught to damage players' - who'd teach that? and how he goes on to say JJB did it deliberately. Hmm
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As an "outsider" it certainly looked deliberate and even more certainly looked to be the most likely incident to have caused Graham an injury to the shoulder.
It was a cheap shot and not one worthy of any player at any level of the game.
Your attempts to defend it are embarrasing!!
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| JJB appealing is silly, he could easily get it upped to 2+. My personal thoughts are that jammer is just being rested and saints are stiriing with leeds
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| it annys the rfl are not protecting the players from the chicken wing tackle. a long game ban would sort it out but they are bottlers.
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| Quote ="st.sticky"Well you certainly won in the chicken wing count'"
No wonder you cant win anything lately
its 1 ALL this season......
JJB and MARY
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| Quote ="kendall17"Does that mean you can't prove it then?'"
I already have. I've cited the medics. That's proof.
So no, it doesn't mean I can't prove it. It means feck off because you are a sad, irritating little whiff of Yarkshire flatulence that I would prefer was wafted away back to your own board.
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| Quote ="Albino Wolf 2"As an "outsider" it certainly looked deliberate and even more certainly looked to be the most likely incident to have caused Graham an injury to the shoulder.
It was a cheap shot and not one worthy of any player at any level of the game.
Your attempts to defend it are embarrasing!!'"
My thoughts exactly as a neutral.
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| Quote ="Albino Wolf 2"As an "outsider" it certainly looked deliberate and even more certainly looked to be the most likely incident to have caused Graham an injury to the shoulder.
It was a cheap shot and not one worthy of any player at any level of the game.
Your attempts to defend it are embarrasing!!'"
It may have looked it but you cannot say it was.
Again you cannot say it was that incident aswell, but it could've been.
It was worthy of more than a 1 match ban.
Am i defending it? No, just saying that you can't say that it was that incident that caused this injury.
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| Quote ="hamiltonsaint"read my post.
oh wait your from yorkshire'"
Do you mean you're?
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| Quote ="Albino Wolf 2"As an "outsider" it certainly looked deliberate and even more certainly looked to be the most likely incident to have caused Graham an injury to the shoulder.'"
Well of course we should hang every one who looks guilty
luckily in this country they view all the evidence first and then come to a judgement....
which of course is what happened on Tuesday evening in case you might have forgotten
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I already have. I've cited the medics. That's proof.
So no, it doesn't mean I can't prove it. It means feck off because you are a sad, irritating little whiff of Yarkshire flatulence that I would prefer was wafted away back to your own board.'"
Its amazing how the medics can pin point this injury. You have a 1 in 47 (collisions) chance of pin pointing this injury.
And thanks for that. I'll do that when you've proven that JJB caused Graham's injury.
Til then i'll defend my corner
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| Quote ="kendall17"Til then i'll defend my corner'"
You still here?
Unless you are JJB, it isn't your corner to defend. JJB is the one accused of the chicken wing.
Meanwhile, go home. You're making yourself look like a real prat.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You still here?
Unless you are JJB, it isn't your corner to defend. JJB is the one accused of the chicken wing.
Meanwhile, go home. You're making yourself look like a real prat.'"
I'm not defending JJB's corner or actions or tackling technique. I'm defending the fact that JJB & Seniors tackle on Graham cannot be proven to have caused his injury.
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| Quote ="kendall17"No, just saying that you can't say that it was that incident that caused this injury.'"
Whether it was caused by that specific tackle or not, that type of tactic will cause potentially career-threatening injuries. The rotator cuff is very delicate and severe damage can never be fully rectified even with surgery.
If I was in charge, the tactic would carry an automatic 5 match ban, that would soon discourage players/teams from employing it. In fact, the NRL are extremely strict about it, and its about time the RFL followed suit.
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| Quote ="Smurf"Whether it was caused by that specific tackle or not, that type of tactic will cause potentially career-threatening injuries. The rotator cuff is very delicate and severe damage can never be fully rectified even with surgery. '"
Agreed, i want it out of the game.
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| Quote ="kendall17"Agreed, i want it out of the game.'"
Graham has got a rotator cuff injury directly caused by a chicken wing tackle. That was the only chicken wing tackle made on Graham during the match. Chicken wing tackles, when severe enough, cause rotator cuff injuries.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Graham has got a rotator cuff injury directly caused by a chicken wing tackle. That was the only chicken wing tackle made on Graham during the match. Chicken wing tackles, when severe enough, cause rotator cuff injuries.'"
So it is only Chicken wing tackles that cause this type of injury?
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