FAIL as per.

Premiership final.

To be fair Saints technically finished the 2nd best team of Super League last year with their grand final appearance. You finished of with a loss to Huddersfield and then booed your own team of

No "technically" about it. We finished 2nd after the regular rounds and made the GF.

At least we were there at the end of the game.

I was there at the end of the final when Wigan lifted the Super League trophy

You're lying. I bet you were half way down chester road saying " gotta get back wiggun fur traffic gts buseh"

No, I celebrated in Manchester that night and got a mini bus home at 4 am while you was tucked up in bed all frustrated that we won

I was out actually in Wrexham actually., I wanted Wigan to win as I loved the fact that Saints would have another grand final loss. Wigan were bound to win something soon, but Saints may not for a while. Did you the Birdcage?

aka "Mark tries to get all concilliatory with Trent, having lost on points in every point he tried to make".............

As stated previously in this thread, as a club St.Helens depise Wigan, Wigan despise St.Helens. This is not about arrogance, its about history and tradition.

As a set of supporters, both St.Helens and Wigan depise Warrington. This is down to the fact they have always had a problem with attracting d**khead supporters and now two CC wins later, more and more appear to be jumping on this bandwagon.
I agree with the 'mutual respect' between Wigan and St.Helens (barring derby day of course

)

On derby day, I get up feeling butterflies, go and watch a fantasticly fought nerve racking game with a brilliant atmosphere. This is exactly the same as any Warrington game.

The difference comes when en route home. After Wigan away, every year we walk back to the train discussing the game with Wigan fans, whoever loses is gracious in defeat. Home safely, no problems.

At Warrington away, its a task getting back to the station without being confronted. Theres always that feeling of nastiness in the air. If saints have won (which happened a fair bit

) you receive constant abuse. Even after the game last month, they were trying to bait all the saints fans to cause a reaction. total pr**ks.

Tbh, I'm surprised the police haven't requested a midday KO for tomorrows cup game because if Wigan win and end Warrington's 'Cup Dominance', I expect a fair bit of trouble.. hopefully all are well behaved, but I'm not holding my breath.

This is bang on.

Being brought up with Wigan RL the Wigan-Saints rivallary is bred into you but I can and will take stick off any Saints fan and respect them simply because they have won it all, they have the right to have the arrogance about them. Wire winning 2 challenge cups in sixty years and being so arrogant annoys the Sh** out of me!!!

Saints over Wire any day for me.

EDIT _ To make it clear though only only ever against Wire........... oh an the Aussies

Much man love for you from me.

Speak for yourself. I despise Wigan and Leeds.

Wire to win tomorrow for me.

As a pie also residing in direland I echo your sentiments. They won 11 or so games and get 2 CCs out of it !!!! we won double that last year just to get the winners shield,,,,, theyre no where near as good as they think they are.

nail on the head.

loads of bellends in warrington.... bound to be some trouble somewhere.

too true MD

I live in warrington and have never had any problem beyond being given a load of stick - I even go in my local warrington mad boozer with my saints shirt on without a load of abuse.

I'm afraid I can't ever support wigoon winning against [uany[/u SL team in any competition although I do support them against the convicts.

So its wire for me and hopefully by a huge margin.



(also assuming we beat the dobbins; I'd fancy our chances in the semi's or final against dire rather than the goons having watched us against both of them recently - we were stuffed by wigoon and a tad unfortunate and dire).

There is a difference. People find the supporters of successful teams annoying as they constantly go on (quite rightly)about their success. In football Man Utd fans are unpopular for this reason. Wire fans perceived arrogance comes from the fact that they way the crow far outweighs what they have actually achieved!

I like it when stupid people define themselves as such.

Can't wait for this match this afternoon. I hope they knock seven bells out of each other. As regards who I want to win I have said earlier Wire for me. I can't shout for or support Wigan ever. Arrogance doesn't come into it for me.


Just read on the Wire forum that Briers is out and Harrison. (don't know if it is true or not) if it is then i would expect Wigan to win.