he's played there a bit, is safe under a bomb, is quick and a decent 1 on 1 tackler

Officially a centre but has covered fullback. When he covered there for us in one match Simmons later said, when choosing Ashe, that Ashe would have been chosen earlier had he (Ashe) not himself been injured, suggesting that Ashe would be above Makinson in the pecking order so far as fullback cover is concerned.

I thought royce has a thing about players playing out of postion?

One things for sure, Armstrong will never play fullback fir us again after his showing at hull.

You're a fooking elephant Pete. But a confused one.

Big trunk?

You've constantly told me all year that Royce likes players to play in their proper position( I don't know if he said that or not but according to you he did) but we aint picked our reserve fullback in the squad?

How pathetic! Paul Wellens has been a stalwart for the club and has helped Saints win on more than one occasion as indicated by the fact he has won every honour going

all true, but his form this season has been shocking, time to move on

I can't believe how poor wello has gone and it's happened so fast.

Injuries, Age and maybe confidence, the latter maybe stemming from the first.



nothing new there

He has, and that's why many defend so vigourously.

His form has been up and down this year, but I felt he was settling into a decent rythm as the team got itself together post Quins defeat.

However, the last month or so he looks like he's really struggling. I reckon a couple of niggles are making it look worse, but, as Saddened says, in Wigan's heyday, even the best players would have the day when Auntie Mo would [iconvince[/i them it was time to move on. Unless a real upturn in form proves me wrong, I think that's what should really be happeneing come the end of this season.

Next year we have Hohaia coming, who in my opinion should be playing #1. We also have Mackinson and Ashe in reserve, as well as the possibility of Lomax ending up there. If we hold on to him for sentimental reasons, it will be to the detriment of the squad.

Taken out of context your honour. If you see my other posts on Wello, they are all very positive and constructive. I love the man to pieces and would have his children. I'd donate him a kidney if he needed one. I'd lend him my car or my wife anytime.

BUT, there comes a time in professional sport when the body betrays the man. And it's happening to Wello now and it's excrutiating to watch.

It's been happening for a while, it's just that some of the Saints fans didn't or didn't want to see it.The 2008 World Cup was the biggest indication of which way he was going (I know he wasn't on his own)

This is not having a dig or troll btw as anybody who was with us on that 2008 tour will tell you, it was discussed at length whilst over there.

I agree with Saddened! and Offside Monkey. Wello's a legend for the club, but his time has come and gone now.

Quite. I'll buy him a drink whenever I see him and chat about the good old times - like seeing him celebrating after the WCC win over brisbane with his face swollen from a broken cheek.

I wonder whether a couple of week without him may convince others of this case.

then he'll correct you

Mmmm...Eye socket?

I was actually thinking about his GF injury, forgot he played with a fractured cheekbone in that WCC game.

My apologies



Damn my memory!

The first time whoever plays fullback next week misses a tackle or drops a high ball, the first thing said will be 'Wellens would have tackled/caught that' no matter whether recent form means he would or wouldn't.

The massively increased yardage we will get will be ignored.

This.

But that isn't surprising considering how fickle sports fans can be. An old bloke next to me came out with a classic after Lomax knocked on in the Hull game- 'He's bloody awful that Lomax, get Eastmond on!'. Full marks to him for going against the norm I suppose.

EDIT - I can't confirm if it was Saddened! or not, but I suppose that pessimism can certainly speed up the ageing process

I was sat infront of an old fella, Lomax took the ball and dropped a forward off on a switch to drive it in.
"He's always doing that move and it never works."
Follwoing play he did something similar for another forward drive.
"He's done it again, there's no point."
Next play we flashed it wide and Meli scored.
"You see, we should just get it wide straight away."


Morons.

How do these people watch the game for decades on end without learning anything about it?

Sounds like the bloke who used to sit behind me in C block at KR and constantly shouted, GET IT WIDE. This occurred even when we were within our own 20 metre area on the 1st or second tackle.

I think he's moved to Wigan and sits behind me.


We all have them.

I'm surrounded by people like that , slightly better than last year though. 1st or 2nd tackle and you have numptys screaming for the ball to 'go wide' without ever really understanding that to do that you need space and to create space you need to draw men in ... doh

Plenty of them around..