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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Yes it did, it happened in the bloody chicken wing tackle! The medic has stated clearly that it is as a direct result of that tackle that his shoulder is damaged. Medic talking about medical things = hard evidence.'"
Press release = make it sound worse than it is.
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| With nothing to play for I suspect he's getting a rest and the backroom staff saw a propaganda opportunity. Guarantee he'll be back for the playoffs.
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| I don't think a week off will do the lad any harm. He's been flogged this season. His game time is way over what any of the Leeds props have had to do.
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| Quote ="kendall17"Press release = make it sound worse than it is.'"
Whatever you say hon.
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| Its pure comedy this.
My immediate thoughts on reading the article were that he managed to comtinue playing on for 3/4 of the match without any problems.
JJB is lodging an appeal..... surely not a cynical ploy by the phantom dummy spitter to put pressure on the RFL to increase his ban ?
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That game was the worst performance by a prop I have seen this season..
and the antics at the end of it brought a once great club into disripute.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Yes it did, it happened in the bloody chicken wing tackle! The medic has stated clearly that it is as a direct result of that tackle that his shoulder is damaged. Medic talking about medical things = hard evidence.'"
If thats the case the medics should be sued for severe professional negligence for failing to bring him off straight away.
Failing that its impossible to prove which tackle (if any) caused the injury and the press release is borderline libelous IMHO
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| Quote ="Devil's Advocate"With nothing to play for I suspect he's getting a rest and the backroom staff saw a propaganda opportunity. Guarantee he'll be back for the playoffs.'"
I think if they were going to make use of the situation, they would have had a press release before they decided the ban.
It sounds to me like his shoulder is too injured to play/or risk him, and they wanted to make very clear it was the chicken wing incident that caused the injury.
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| Quote ="hamiltonsaint"it will be a saints v wigan grand final'"
Which 2 teams will Leeds lose to for that to happen?
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| Quote ="kendall17"Give me some hard evidence that it was linked to the chicken wing and i'll retract my statement. Undue pressure on his joint could've happend when tackling or being tackled.'"
The RFL obviously think it was JJB, there is that evidence enough?
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"If thats the case the medics should be sued for severe professional negligence for failing to bring him off straight away.
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So should the Leeds medics be sued for failing to bring Sinfield off as well? Oh thats right he only had a phantom broken cheekbone didn't he.
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| Quote ="steve"So should the Leeds medics be sued for failing to bring Sinfield off as well? Oh thats right he only had a phantom broken cheekbone didn't he.
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The difference is in Sinfields case they were proven right before the event and ih Grhamas case they apparnetly got it wrong
PS yes rather like the big fannys phantom shoulder injury
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"DROPPED icon_wink.gif
That game was the worst performance by a prop I have seen this season..
and the antics at the end of it brought a once great club into disripute.
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IF that was the "worst performance"...Given that he made more meters than any of the leeds pack off fewer carries, made more tackles with less misses - what does that make your team's performance?
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"The difference is in Sinfields case they were proven right before the event and ih Grhamas case they apparnetly got it wrong'"
Huh? That makes no sense.
Go away and learn English, then you can come back and write your post again. In fact, just go away.
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| Quote ="steve"IF that was the "worst performance"...Given that he made more meters than any of the leeds pack off fewer carries, made more tackles with less misses - what does that make your team's performance?'"
Just that a "TEAM" performance without over-reliance on 1 man!!
H-T-H.
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| Quote ="steve"IF that was the "worst performance"...Given that he made more meters than any of the leeds pack off fewer carries, made more tackles with less misses - what does that make your team's performance?'"
THE WINNERS
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| Quote ="st.sticky"The RFL obviously think it was JJB, there is that evidence enough?'"
JJB caused the chicken wing tackle to take place... did this cause said injury
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"The difference is in Sinfields case they were proven right before the event and in Grahams case they apparently got it completely wrong.
PS yes rather like the big fannys phantom shoulder injury
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My apologies have fixed the typos
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| Quote ="kendall17"JJB caused the chicken wing tackle to take place... did this cause said injury'"
Yes.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Yes.'"
Prove it.
James Graham came into contact in many more tackles where this sort of injury could have occured.
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| Quote ="kendall17"Prove it.
James Graham came into contact in many more tackles where this sort of injury could have occured.'"
go and ask the docs for the medical report then
good bit of fishing here get a life
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| Quote ="hamiltonsaint"go and ask the docs for the medical report then
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Why, can they prove that it was that very tackle that caused it?
I doubt it. Graham was involved in 23 Carries (which resulted in a tackle) and 24 tackles completed and could have sustained the injury in a number of these.
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| Quote ="kendall17"Prove it.
James Graham came into contact in many more tackles where this sort of injury could have occured.'"
For feck's sake.
The medic has reported that the rotator cuff injury is a direct result of the chicken wing tackle.
That's all the proof you would need if the injury had taken place to one of your players.
Now bugga off back to your own board. Flippin sick of Leeds on here. Anyone would think they'd lost on Friday night the amount of whinging that's been going on.
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| Quote ="Loop"Which 2 teams will Leeds lose to for that to happen?'"
either Leeds or Saints only need to lose one game not to make the GF - the semi final.
however, for Saints and Wigan to be in the final together, Leeds would have to choose to play Wigan. I suspect Leeds would choose Hull KR or Huddersfield over Wigan.
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