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| Wigan RLFC best team by a mile. Will rule rugby for years to come
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| Great analysis.
Yeah, they have won every single game this year, pocketed the challenge cup, and blew Saints away in the first 20 mins today.
That certainly all adds up to them ruling RL for years to come.
Stay off the ale son.
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| Quote ="Doogal"Wigan RLFC best team by a mile. Will rule rugby for years to come'"
I agree they was best team by a mile tonight but wouldn't say they will rule rugby for years to come.
Next year will be very very tight and any team from saints, leeds, wigan, wolves and hudds are good enough to win it.
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| It's silly season again. When Bradford won, they'd dominate for decade, then Saints would. When Leeds won no one could ever see them losing again, never mind not winning SL.
The salary cap means no one will 'dominate' for more than a 5 year period. Wigan's coach has brought that success this season, his techniques and their style of play will now become the norm.
They only beat us by 12 tonight and we were missing both our halfbacks. It's not like we lost by 60 tonight.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"They only beat us by 12 tonight and we were missing both our halfbacks. It's not like we lost by 60 tonight.'"
Bloody annoying thing is that they were there for the beating in the second half. If we hadn't cocked up two clear try scoring opportunities, which would have brought us level, we would have at least had a 50:50 chance of winning again. But we just weren't operating as a team. Again!
Bloody Potter and his totally weird line ups, which he changes AGAIN just for the Grand Final and when there was actually no need!
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| Wigan were the best team on the night and have been the best team all season.
However, I don't think they'll rule for years to come. I even said to my mum who I was with today that I don't think they'll win it next year. Its impossible to say.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"It's silly season again. When Bradford won, they'd dominate for decade, then Saints would. When Leeds won no one could ever see them losing again, never mind not winning SL.
The salary cap means no one will 'dominate' for more than a 5 year period. Wigan's coach has brought that success this season, his techniques and their style of play will now become the norm.
They only beat us by 12 tonight and we were missing both our halfbacks. It's not like we lost by 60 tonight.'"
I agree.
Kyle and leon would have been worth at least 12 points for us tonight if they had played.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Bloody annoying thing is that =#FF4000they were there for the beating in the second half. If we hadn't cocked up two clear try scoring opportunities, which would have brought us level, we would have at least had a 50:50 chance of winning again. But we just weren't operating as a team. Again!
Bloody Potter and his totally weird line ups, which he changes AGAIN just for the Grand Final and when there was actually no need!'"
Absolute garbage (as usual)
The score flattered Saints. Wigan had two tries disallowed and missed three kicks.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Absolute garbage (as usual)
The score flattered Saints. Wigan had two tries disallowed and missed three kicks.'"
The score did flatter saints.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Absolute garbage (as usual)
The score flattered Saints. Wigan had two tries disallowed and missed three kicks.'"
Fair enough. Wigan did dominate tonight. But you cannot suggest the game couldn't have gone the other way had Pryce and Eastmond both been fit?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Absolute garbage (as usual)'"
We balsed up two bang on try scoring opportunities, one over the line. Both of those opportunities were in the second half. We got clean breaks in the second half; we didn't in the first. You were there for the taking and had we actually turned up to play tonight, it could have ended up a thriller. As it turned out, we decided to play one of our useless games, the like of which we have seen on many occasions this season.
But all that doesn't mean you weren't the best side on the night. You were. And yes, the scoreline flattered us. We even handed you the ball on one occasion! We were garbage. I love it when Saints are garbage. It reminds me of my youth.
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| Quote ="Doogal"Wigan RLFC best team by a mile. Will rule rugby for years to come'"
cant argue they deserved there win but with a few 50/50's going our way and a bit more composure we could have made a game of it for certain. If we clean up the PTB like they have in aus to prevent the Wigan/Melbourne 'style' of play I cant see they ruling much tbh.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Absolute garbage (as usual)
The score flattered Saints. Wigan had two tries disallowed and missed three kicks.'"
I'm biting here, probably because I've had a few drinks. But why don't you just go away with your smug nonsense, especially considering that I could bring up several of your nervous and obsessed posts in the few days prior to the game?
Feel lucky that you haven't been banned like you would have with the same posts (Saints fan) had been on Cherry and White, and celebrate your victory without being the clown that you are on here. Enjoy.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"It's silly season again. When Bradford won, they'd dominate for decade, then Saints would. When Leeds won no one could ever see them losing again, never mind not winning SL.
The salary cap means no one will 'dominate' for more than a 5 year period. Wigan's coach has brought that success this season, his techniques and their style of play will now become the norm.
They only beat us by 12 tonight and we were missing both our halfbacks. It's not like we lost by 60 tonight.'"
Be careful Saddo your getting positive there
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| They blew us off the park in those opening twenty-five minutes and we didn't recover from that. Potter's post-match comments pretty much summed up the match for us.
"We burned a lot of energy in the first 20 minutes. I wouldn't say it was won or lost then but it certainly contributed. It's hard to pull back a hefty score and against a quality team it makes it double hard.
[i"Even though we did make some breaks, we probably forced a couple of balls and made some uncharacteristic errors. I thought up until 10 minutes from the end we were still in the game. We just needed something to go our way and it didn't happen tonight but I don't want to take anything away from how well Wigan performed."[/i
They will be a formidable outfit next year with Hoffman and Finch in their line up but after that it will be dependent upon who they have following Maguire. NRL clubs are going to be sniffing around him after next year so maybe Shaun Wane will get the job and he is British which means it will probably be a dip in quality for them at some point during his tenure i.e. when the game goes beyond what Maguire taught him.
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| Quote ="McClennan"They blew us off the park in those opening twenty-five minutes and we didn't recover from that. Potter's post-match comments pretty much summed up the match for us.
"We burned a lot of energy in the first 20 minutes. I wouldn't say it was won or lost then but it certainly contributed. It's hard to pull back a hefty score and against a quality team it makes it double hard.
[i"Even though we did make some breaks, we probably forced a couple of balls and made some uncharacteristic errors. I thought up until 10 minutes from the end we were still in the game. We just needed something to go our way and it didn't happen tonight but I don't want to take anything away from how well Wigan performed."[/i
They will be a formidable outfit next year with Hoffman and Finch in their line up but after that it will be dependent upon who they have following Maguire. NRL clubs are going to be sniffing around him after next year so maybe Shaun Wane will get the job and he is British which means it will probably be a dip in quality for them at some point during his tenure i.e. when the game goes beyond what Maguire taught him.'"
Well said, Potter's comments are spot on really.
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| Quote ="McClennan"They blew us off the park in those opening twenty-five minutes and we didn't recover from that. Potter's post-match comments pretty much summed up the match for us.
"We burned a lot of energy in the first 20 minutes. I wouldn't say it was won or lost then but it certainly contributed. It's hard to pull back a hefty score and against a quality team it makes it double hard.
[i"Even though we did make some breaks, we probably forced a couple of balls and made some uncharacteristic errors. I thought up until 10 minutes from the end we were still in the game. We just needed something to go our way and it didn't happen tonight but I don't want to take anything away from how well Wigan performed."[/i
They will be a formidable outfit next year with Hoffman and Finch in their line up but after that it will be dependent upon who they have following Maguire. NRL clubs are going to be sniffing around him after next year so maybe Shaun Wane will get the job and he is British which means it will probably be a dip in quality for them at some point during his tenure i.e. when the game goes beyond what Maguire taught him.'"
If Wane does take over in a couple of years as you would expect, what would be stopping Wane from going along with the evolution of the sport? You say it like he can't think for himself.
I know it's not the same level but his reserves team were far more dominant than this first team before he probably ever spoke to Maguire.
Wane is a great coach himself. Maguire often states how big an influence people like him and Mark Bitcon have had. Bitcon is the reason the team has been in such good state all year and Wane is the reason our forwards don't look like powerpuff girls anymore.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"If Wane does take over in a couple of years as you would expect, what would be stopping Wane from going along with the evolution of the sport? You say it like he can't think for himself.
I know it's not the same level but his reserves team were far more dominant than this first team before he probably ever spoke to Maguire.
Wane is a great coach himself. Maguire often states how big an influence people like him and Mark Bitcon have had. Bitcon is the reason the team has been in such good state all year and Wane is the reason our forwards don't look like powerpuff girls anymore.'"
I think basically what he means is the game evolves in Aus and we follow suit (normally a few years behind). Occasionally a team (Wigan in this case) get a forward thinking/on the ball Aussie coach over who jumps an English team a couple of years ahead of the rest.
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| Quote [i"Even though we did make some breaks, we probably forced a couple of balls and made some uncharacteristic errors. I thought up until 10 minutes from the end we were still in the game.[/i '"
He must have been the only one! How many times have we scored three tries in the last 10 minutes lately? We managed two against Cas, but that's it. The guy is deluded.
Quote [iWe just needed something to go our way and it didn't happen tonight [/i'"
Tackling, holding on to the ball, catching, kicking, kick chase, not giving away penalties, players in their correct positions ... yep. We needed something to go our way!
Bye Mick!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Tackling, holding on to the ball, catching, kicking, kick chase, not giving away penalties, players in their correct positions ... yep. We needed something to go our way! '"
Erm...
Quote [iwe probably forced a couple of balls and made some uncharacteristic errors. [/i'"
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Bloody annoying thing is that they were there for the beating in the second half. If we hadn't cocked up two clear try scoring opportunities, which would have brought us level, we would have at least had a 50:50 chance of winning again. But we just weren't operating as a team.'"
totally deluded
there for the taking ?? what game did you see ?
save for a few short periods through the game , wigan controlled it
50/50 chance of winning ? yes of course , there was only 2 teams playing =#FF0000KNOCK OFF THE INSULTS CLETUS. Carlos.
we basically did to you what we did to leeds the previous week , but in the end the score did flatter you
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| Quote ="wiganstu"totally deluded
there for the taking ?? what game did you see ?
save for a few short periods through the game , wigan controlled it
50/50 chance of winning ? yes of course , there was only 2 teams playing you t1t
we basically did to you what we did to leeds the previous week , but in the end the score did flatter you'"
You controlled the game and we never looked like winning, however, we did have a couple of chances that we bombed, if we score one of those, its a different game IMO, and we would have been in with a shout of winning the game. It wasn't to be, and we didn't deserve it.
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| IF . that very little big word
2 trys scratched off , 4? shots at goal missed = 16 points further infront
we could go on all day with IF
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| Quote ="wiganstu"IF . that very little big word
2 trys scratched off , 4? shots at goal missed = 16 points further infront
we could go on all day with IF'"
Correct we could and its all pointless now, but the point still stands, if Saints had got one bounce of the ball or took one of those chances, they'd have been well in the game.
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| Quote ="wiganstu"IF . that very little big word
2 trys scratched off , 4? shots at goal missed = 16 points further infront
we could go on all day with IF'"
There is a separate trolling thread for annoying little jerks like you.
Please use it.
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