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| Lots of talk about a 'new signing' but all the speculated names are being snapped up.
Is there really another signing on the cards? By the names that are left to get it looks like it would be a wasted signing more than anything
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| Confirmed speculation that we at least were looking for a forward. Royston has mentioned it a few times.
Yup, the ambitious clubs are snapping up all the talent. Get used to it, it's the future.
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| I couldve guessed you would be first to comment
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| Quote ="Saint94"Lots of talk about a 'new signing' but all the speculated names are being snapped up.
Is there really another signing on the cards? By the names that are left to get it looks like it would be a wasted signing more than anything'"
Not really all that worried to be honest, I reckon Wigan and Wire have peaked and look a bit old in the tooth next season.
Catalans look really strong with some excellent acquisitions.
If Lance turns out to be a success then see no reason why we should,t be in the top 4 as usual. The younger players have another season under there belt, some how I don,t think our BOD will buy in to make up the numbers.
The only player I would like to see at the club is Benji, is it really an impossibilty.
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| Well we'll have to wait and see won't we . In terms of the clubs with ambition who are you talking about saddened. As far as I can see we have missed out on one championship prop. Lynch was never on the cards no ne pays a six figure transfere fee for a 31year old unless they are desperate to find cover.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Well we'll have to wait and see won't we . In terms of the clubs with ambition who are you talking about saddened. As far as I can see we have missed out on one championship prop. Lynch was never on the cards no ne pays a six figure transfere fee for a 31year old unless they are desperate to find cover.'"
They paid £1000.01p
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| Like Soliola was this year, Perry will be like a new signing next year, our squad with cover next year could be
1 Wellens Lance Makinson Ashe
2 Gardner Makinson
3 Shenton Wheeler
4 Meli Soliola Wheeler
5 Foster Makinson
6 Lance Gaskell Wheeler
7 Lomax Lance
8 LMS Puletua Laffrichi Forster
9 Roby Flanaghan
10 Perry Clough Magennis
11 Soliola Dixon
12 Wilkin Flanaghan
13 Puletua Flannery
Theres plenty of cover there (which we made need if injuries are the same as this year!)
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Like Soliola was this year, Perry will be like a new signing next year, our squad with cover next year could be
1 Wellens Lance Makinson Ashe
2 Gardner Makinson
3 Shenton Wheeler
4 Meli Soliola Wheeler
5 Foster Makinson
6 Lance Gaskell Wheeler
7 Lomax Lance
8 LMS Puletua Laffrichi Forster
9 Roby Flanaghan
10 Perry Clough Magennis
11 Soliola Dixon
12 Wilkin Flanaghan
13 Puletua Flannery
Theres plenty of cover there (which we made need if injuries are the same as this year!)'"
You can't have first team players as cover in other positions
Going off your list if Lomax gets injured, we're up the creek.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"You can't have first team players as cover in other positions
Going off your list if Lomax gets injured, we're up the creek.'"
Of course you can, thats how squads work. Most people would have Wheeler in any Saints team (if fit of course) either at centre or either HB position. Again Lance will play either HB position or fullback, depending where he's needed. Modern players are much more versatile.
as for being up a creek without Lomax, while it wouldnt be good, we'll still have Gaskell, Lance and Wheeler to cover the hb positions
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Like Soliola was this year, Perry will be like a new signing next year, our squad with cover next year could be
1 Wellens Lance Makinson Ashe
2 Gardner Makinson
3 Shenton Wheeler
4 Meli Soliola Wheeler
5 Foster Makinson
6 Lance Gaskell Wheeler
7 Lomax Lance
8 LMS Puletua Laffrichi Forster
9 Roby Flanaghan
10 Perry Clough Magennis
11 Soliola Dixon
12 Wilkin Flanaghan
13 Puletua Flannery
Theres plenty of cover there (which we made need if injuries are the same as this year!)'"
1 Wellens Makinson Ashe
2 Gardner Makinson
3 Shenton
4 Meli
5 Foster Makinson
6 Lance Gaskell
7 Lomax
8 LMS Forster
9 Roby
10 Perry Magennis
11 Soliola Dixon
12 Wilkin
13 Puletua Flannery
14 Clough
15 Laffranchi
16 Flanaghan
17 Wheeler
If we look at your starting 17 instead of 13, removing the cover avaialbale, then we look a little bit thin on the ground if any of them pick up injuries, particularly at prop, where really we only have Magennis, and Forster. When Perry limps off after 10 minutes, and the ageing Laffranchi second rower struggles to fill Grahams boots, we could be stoofed quite quickly.
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"1 Wellens Makinson Ashe
2 Gardner Makinson
3 Shenton
4 Meli
5 Foster Makinson
6 Lance Gaskell
7 Lomax
8 LMS Forster
9 Roby
10 Perry Magennis
11 Soliola Dixon
12 Wilkin
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14 Clough
15 Laffranchi
16 Flanaghan
17 Wheeler
If we look at your starting 17 instead of 13, removing the cover avaialbale, then we look a little bit thin on the ground if any of them pick up injuries, particularly at prop, where really we only have Magennis, and Forster. When Perry limps off after 10 minutes, and the ageing Laffranchi second rower struggles to fill Grahams boots, we could be stoofed quite quickly.'"
Glass half empty
You're beginning to sound like saddened.
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| Quote ="Top Saint"Glass half empty
You're beginning to sound like saddened.
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Just a realist! Don't underestimate the loss of Graham, we have no where near replaced either his ability, or the amount of work he does through the season in terms of time on the pitch. Grahams contribution is equal to double what any other prop can give us, at the minute, his only replacement is Laffranchi, which is not enough. (ok, maybe I am feeling as gloomy as saddened!)
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"Just a realist! Don't underestimate the loss of Graham, we have no where near replaced either his ability, or the amount of work he does through the season in terms of time on the pitch. Grahams contribution is equal to double what any other prop can give us, at the minute, his only replacement is Laffranchi, which is not enough. (ok, maybe I am feeling as gloomy as saddened!)'"
cheer up , at least you can see your team stuggle next year, in comfortable surroundings
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Going off your list if Lomax gets injured, we're up the creek.'"
Some fans seem to have forgotten that there are young players who will be knocking on the door of the first team next season but who weren't ready this season. How do we know that one of them is not better than Lomax in the halves? Or at least just as good to stand in? Our squad isn't set in stone. We can always add more young players. I guess that's the beauty of having a good youth setup.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Some fans seem to have forgotten that there are young players who will be knocking on the door of the first team next season but who weren't ready this season.
I guess that's the beauty of having a good youth setup.'"
I think you will find that most Super League Clubs have good youth set ups it just takes time for them to develop, even in your "beauty" of a good youth set up you still have to plunder other clubs youth Shelton and Louis MS? LOL!
Also Top Saint states "Absolutely right. In our own, wholly owned, comfortable surroundings." I wonder what the deeds do say? is it completely & fully owned, a lot of Council's and Development Boards when they invest are using tax payers money so they like it to be part owned by & for the community? St Helens may be different.
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| Quote ="jaybs"I think you will find that most Super League Clubs have good youth set ups it just takes time for them to develop, even in your "beauty" of a good youth set up you still have to plunder other clubs youth Shelton and Louis MS? LOL! '"
Plunder? Do you know what the word means? Clearly not! We signed one Cas player and one London player. On Sunday against Wigan we played three foreign players, said Cas and London players plus Wilkin who is from Hull (but who has been with us 10 years next season), and the rest were local lads who had come through our youth system. I think you'll find we lead the way again this season in the number of young and home grown players we have played. That sets us apart in this area.
Quote I wonder what the deeds do say? is it completely & fully owned, a lot of Council's and Development Boards when they invest are using tax payers money so they like it to be part owned by & for the community? St Helens may be different.'"
The stadium is fully owned by the club. The whole site is owned by the developers, Langtree. The council paid for the site to be cleansed and redeveloped (infrastructure) and Tesco paid only for itself. They are the facts of the matter but please don't let that undermine your bitterness.
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| Seem to recall Saints signing two Samoans after the 2003 RU World cup and wasnt Apollo P bought after a previous RWC competition as well? Possible source for signings again maybe.
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| Quote ="Destry"Seem to recall Saints signing two Samoans after the 2003 RU World cup and wasnt Apollo P bought after a previous RWC competition as well? Possible source for signings again maybe.'"
Maybe, that sonny bill Williams might be worth a punt as he might make a good rugby league player
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| Quote ="Destry"Seem to recall Saints signing two Samoans after the 2003 RU World cup and wasnt Apollo P bought after a previous RWC competition as well? Possible source for signings again maybe.'"
Maurie came good once he got fit and Dom Feaunati brought some bite to the backline.
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| Quote ="Gerry Mander"Maurie came good once he got fit and Dom Feaunati brought some bite to the backline.'"
Funny how Dom was the one who signed as a "cert" to be a success and Maurie was bought as a gamble who would progress slowly!
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| Quote ="Destry"Seem to recall Saints signing two Samoans after the 2003 RU World cup and wasnt Apollo P bought after a previous RWC competition as well? Possible source for signings again maybe.'"
With the clamping down on overseas/non fed players i doubt we can sign anyone from the world cup.
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| Quote ="jaybs"I think you will find that most Super League Clubs have good youth set ups it just takes time for them to develop, even in your "beauty" of a good youth set up you still have to plunder other clubs youth Shelton and Louis MS? LOL!
Also Top Saint states "Absolutely right. In our own, wholly owned, comfortable surroundings." I wonder what the deeds do say? is it completely & fully owned, a lot of Council's and Development Boards when they invest are using tax payers money so they like it to be part owned by & for the community? St Helens may be different.'" You really are a d1ck. We aquired out of contract British talent and yes we own our stadium unlike alot of clubs including your worthless nomads. Don't know why I or anyone else takes you on, turncoat.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"You really are a d1ck. We aquired out of contract British talent and yes we own our stadium unlike alot of clubs including your worthless nomads. Don't know why I or anyone else takes you on, turncoat.'"
Shows home much you know about rugby league, in a recent game against Leeds we had no players who did not hold a UK Passport on the pitch and we had Five London born players, remember our history is 30 years not 100 years plus.
You are such a polite person LOL! nice to know you.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I think you'll find we lead the way again this season in the number of young and home grown players we have played. That sets us apart in this area.
The stadium is fully owned by the club. The whole site is owned by the developers, Langtree. The council paid for the site to be cleansed and redeveloped (infrastructure) and Tesco paid only for itself. They are the facts of the matter but please don't let that undermine your bitterness.'"
I respect the number of players the club has brought through the Academy system, but many use it as an excuse when a few matches are lost.
Why should I be bitter? I support any club that is trying to improve themselves, it is just unfortunate it was not done when the Sky money first came into our game.
Tesco paid only for itself? so no money was given at all towards the ground? so do you underestimate the investment from the Council? which come out of taxpayers money, 3% of them a recent figure who support rugby league, even though Council Leader Marie Rimmer tried! to claim much more was down to them, not saying why nothing was ever done much earlier? I still felt some money came through North West Development if I am wrong. It is great to see such as Salford & Warrington with such new grounds. We are now in London looking at land but it has to be the right move, one of the reasons investment is now being put into the Youth game in certain areas, £250,000 from just one sponsor, which is small time money to them this year. I just wish Wigan when they sold Central Park had gone for their own ground, not the beck and call of an owner as we well know currently.
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