I would say he was partly to blame for three tries on Sunday, he also conceded a penalty with his rush defence and also was partly to blame for one or two more half breaks.

Maybe this is Bluey's fault for getting him to target Orford too much but it's not the first time I've noticed him miss tackles or have bad positioning. At the start of last season he was missing tackles quite often. The match against Melbourne springs to mind. I know he wasn't helped by donald and watkins coming in-field.

90% of the team showed defensive weak spots against manly.
Many others gave away cheap penalties.
So what's your point?????

Why?

His technique leaves a lot to be desired at times, he bounces off a lot of tackles by leading with the arms.

He got stood up by Watmough and his poor positional sense mean't he missed tackles that were probably his responsibility. He also put a weak tackle in that enabled the player to offload.

I thought McLaren said it was the end to these threads?

I would think providing it is constructive that it will be aloud.

Pont being missed is that after losing burrow both mcguire and Sinfield changed position, tghis always causes defensive problems as when tied or as Sunday you are under the cosh by a very good team you do not need to be concouisly thinking of where you need to be in the defensive line, If we still had Jordan Tansey on the bench he could have gone to scrumhalf and this might have made a bit of a differance, Probably still lost but less of the more glaring mistakes.

If you want to go thru the negative process of pointing fingers at individual players for their mistakes there would be alot more than Kev being singled out and with a greater portion of the blame. Like all the other players he ran his blood to water for the TEAM.

Players do not make errors or lose games of that magnitude deliberately.

He wasn't helped by the walking turnstile that was Lauitiiti on his outside in the first half...

Just to chuck a couple of stats in, last year he made 777 tackles (2nd in the League) and missed 56 (9th in the league). The previous season he made 817 tackles (3rd in the League) and missed 41 (not in the top 20 in the League).

You can make what you will of these stats, lots of scenarios could explain them. Certainly not work-shy though is he?

In general he is a good tackler, no doubt, on the whole.

In relation to the game, I thought we really saw the captain in him. When Carl did his howler, he dragged him up by the scruff of the neck and had a quiet word in his ear.

I enjoyed the move, when he ran across the line, drawing people in, stepping, passed to Ali then flicked to Senior to score IIRC. That was a great move. That's the direction we have missed from Burrow and Webb. That control of play.

Who are you?? TVOC in disguise??

The funny thing is tvoc avoids such 'geeky' stats like the plague.

Edit: Oh dear, I hope that isn't an AP'ism talking about oneself in the third person. Be sure I'm having a quiet word with myself as we speak.

Nah, I just looked on the Superleague website. Tvoc probably has a spreadsheet detailing who each of the tackles were on, how many others were involved and what colour underpants he was wearing. I can only dream of the day when I can rival those kinds of stats.