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| Interesting reading Rohan's comments about him are all about him being a good team man. Hardly selling him as the messiah. Maybe that's a good thing, but holy smoke if that really is the best they can do after knowing we'd need at least one halfback for a year then deary me.
Having said all that, I'll support him now he's signed, and will shut up about how really not very good he is.
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| Quote ="Once were Loiners"Interesting reading Rohan's comments about him are all about him being a good team man. Hardly selling him as the messiah. Maybe that's a good thing, but holy smoke if that really is the best they can do after knowing we'd need at least one halfback for a year then deary me.
Having said all that, I'll support him now he's signed, and will shut up about how really not very good he is.'"
Exactly, the comments are strange imo, its like they know the general feeling of the fans, but the best they can offer with a straight face are that he wants to be here and he's a good bloke.
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| I think Frawley is getting some unwarranted stick on here. Now I'm not saying he's the worlds best halfback but he won't be the same player he was at Hudds 4/5 years ago, he was 24 and didn't have much experience now he hasn't been playing NRL consistently at Canberra since going back to Oz but he's 28/29 and is a more mature player and probably a different player to what he was at Hudds. Jack Cogger was seen as a waste of space player at Hudds hes gone back to oz and will more than likely win the Premiership with the Panthers. From what I've been told from my source at the club they are trying very hard to get a top class half to partner Frawley whether we can attract/ land that calibre of player we'll have to see.
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| I have no recollection of Frawley at Hudds, and I haven't seen him play in Aus. Cant imagine hes as bad as some are making out on here and on social media.
He says hes an organiser, and apparently a good leader and kicker, this is exactly what we need so hopefully it works out well.
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Quote ="christopher"Quote from Raiders fans twitter, to be fair that does sound like what we need.
“He has a very good kicking game. Good cross field bombs and short attacking kicks his best. Left foot. Five eighth definitely his best spot. Experienced, calm, a leader, can organise, but best as a secondary playmaker. Can play hooker at a pinch.”
https://twitter.com/theghraiders/status ... 14851?s=46'"
If that quote is even 80% true he’ll be better at moving us around the park than the current incumbent’s. It’s a big if until we see him play every week though.
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Quote ="christopher"Quote from Raiders fans twitter, to be fair that does sound like what we need.
“He has a very good kicking game. Good cross field bombs and short attacking kicks his best. Left foot. Five eighth definitely his best spot. Experienced, calm, a leader, can organise, but best as a secondary playmaker. Can play hooker at a pinch.”
https://twitter.com/theghraiders/status ... 14851?s=46'"
If that quote is even 80% true he’ll be better at moving us around the park than the current incumbent’s. It’s a big if until we see him play every week though.
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| Quote ="Jrrhino"I think Frawley is getting some unwarranted stick on here. Now I'm not saying he's the worlds best halfback but he won't be the same player he was at Hudds 4/5 years ago, he was 24 and didn't have much experience now he hasn't been playing NRL consistently at Canberra since going back to Oz but he's 28/29 and is a more mature player and probably a different player to what he was at Hudds. Jack Cogger was seen as a waste of space player at Hudds hes gone back to oz and will more than likely win the Premiership with the Panthers. From what I've been told from my source at the club they are trying very hard to get a top class half to partner Frawley whether we can attract/ land that calibre of player we'll have to see.'"
Hope it’s Croft…now that would be showing some ambition.
Club could still just turn this around by announcing Brodie Croft and Tom Burgess in the coming weeks
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| Hopefully a case of Dunemann Mk2, and there are more dynamic signings to come.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Hopefully a case of Dunemann Mk2, and there are more dynamic signings to come.'"
Looks like he's playing at six again in the play offs this weekend. Miller looks to be dropping out to make way for Ponga.
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| I have to think Leeds will be trying for a few more signings but unless the new ones are better than the old ones, how are we going to move forward?
I thought our pack would be sorted this year but it still isn't. If we can establish more yardage and momentum in the middle it will make whoever plays 6 and 7 look miles better.
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Have you any sense that it might be Croft? I think most people on here, including myself, think he would be ideal, but maybe that's just because we see him more often. My doubt about it is that if there was any truth in it, it would be all over the various RL News sites. I haven't even seen it reported as a rumour.
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W- D.Fusitu'a, A.Handley, D.Olpherts,
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C- H.Newman, New Centre, L.Roberts, M.Simpson, J.Smith
HLF- M.Frawley, New Half, J.Sinfield
PROP- M.Oledzki, T.Holroyd, S.Lisone, M.Goudemond, J.Sangare
HOK- J.O'Connor, C.Johnson
BR- J.Bentley, R.Martin, J.Mcdonnell, M.Gannon, L.Ruan, T.Warren
LF- C.Smith, J.Donaldson
Just a break down of what our 2024 roster is looking like. Been told Fusitu'a has definitely resigned, Bentley has been offered a deal and close to signing after his negotiations with 2 SL clubs broke down apparently Hudds & Hull FC we're the ones in for him.
The Leeds is making a top class Half back a priority to partner Frawley.
Myler will be main utility to cover all spine positions 1,6,7 &9.
Rhyse will also cover centre the clubs relationship with Nene Macdonald seems pretty much dead in the water and it'll take a lot for them to get back on good terms with each other so the club are also looking for a new Centre.
Donaldson & Ruan will cover at Prop to make up for loss of Walters.
Finally Rowan Milnes is hesitant at joining now because he wants to be a 1st choice Half which it looks like he won't be if he signs with us or if he stays at Hull KR.
That's what I got updated today after asking about what comes after Frawley deal.
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| That sounds like there's a gripe about the club from MacDonald?
That front row needs another addition to get back up in the 4 with Mik returning to form too.
Croft I think is just supporter talk of someone whos the level we need to be looking at whilst also somewhat attainable. It may be that the sale of Dupree has enabled them to resist offers, plus I cant see GH putting up a fee like Wigan did.
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| Quote ="Jrrhino"FB- L.Miller, R.Myler, L.Hooley, A.Edgell
W- D.Fusitu'a, A.Handley, D.Olpherts,
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C- H.Newman, New Centre, L.Roberts, M.Simpson, J.Smith
HLF- M.Frawley, New Half, J.Sinfield
PROP- M.Oledzki, T.Holroyd, S.Lisone, M.Goudemond, J.Sangare
HOK- J.O'Connor, C.Johnson
BR- J.Bentley, R.Martin, J.Mcdonnell, M.Gannon, L.Ruan, T.Warren
LF- C.Smith, J.Donaldson
Just a break down of what our 2024 roster is looking like. Been told Fusitu'a has definitely resigned, Bentley has been offered a deal and close to signing after his negotiations with 2 SL clubs broke down apparently Hudds & Hull FC we're the ones in for him.
The Leeds is making a top class Half back a priority to partner Frawley.
Myler will be main utility to cover all spine positions 1,6,7 &9.
Rhyse will also cover centre the clubs relationship with Nene Macdonald seems pretty much dead in the water and it'll take a lot for them to get back on good terms with each other so the club are also looking for a new Centre.
Donaldson & Ruan will cover at Prop to make up for loss of Walters.
Finally Rowan Milnes is hesitant at joining now because he wants to be a 1st choice Half which it looks like he won't be if he signs with us or if he stays at Hull KR.
That's what I got updated today after asking about what comes after Frawley deal.'"
Looks about right so far. New centre and new half must be decent players and even then I'm not convinced by this side I'll be honest. I'd rather we didn't re-sign Bentley and found a strike second rower instead.
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| Quote ="Seth"I cant see GH putting up a fee like Wigan did.'"
I thought we'd already quashed that urban myth? Leeds will pay a fee - a big one - if they deem it worthwhile.
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I didn't realise it was as much as that. Who have been the other examples of big fees paid in recent years, say the last decade. I don't profess to follow the finances a great deal though does the stadium build and COVID recovery alter that thinking?
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| Quote ="Seth"I didn't realise it was as much as that. Who have been the other examples of big fees paid in recent years, say the last decade. I don't profess to follow the finances a great deal though does the stadium build and COVID recovery alter that thinking?'"
The paid a transfer fee (on top of the Tui swap) for Lui. Think that was about 50k.
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| I'm guessing we'd be looking at around 200 for croft with the worry of him exiting to the NRL after a short stint being a concern, especially with situations like MacDonald and in the past segeyaro.
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| I’ve been watching some positive affirmations on you tube to try and get me into a happy space, like Christopher and Barmy army. It made me feel a bit nauseous but I think it’s an age appropriate response.
I don’t watch much NRL but I’ve looked at a few names mentioned by others on here.
Given we have Frawley now as a steady away character at 6, (I’m looking forward to him dropping it off to Newman and Bentley). God it might be working. Anyway I’d rather we went for a young scrum half like a Lachlan Lam as opposed to Croft. I like the look of Ronald Volkman, he’s got a bit of flair about him. No idea if it’s realistic.
To resume a bit of normal service now we have Frawley we definitely don’t need to go drop-off tastic by getting Milnes as well.
Also not sure about Lee as Hurrell MK2.
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| Realistically, the recruitment of Frawley is about where we're at.
As much as I would love us to go for Croft and still believe we should, I just don't think it's realistic given where we are.
If he were to stay in SL he would go to Saints, Wigan or Cats, but most likely he'll go back to NRL, especially if Sezer can get a gig.
We are competing with Hudds, Hull & HKR for the middle places in the League.
And that is reflected in the quality of the recruitment.
It's just the current reality.
I'm prepared to give him a chance and see how he goes, but expectations are relatively low.
I still think we should be busting a gut to get Burgess.
Given he's a Leeds fan we should have the edge.
But I expect he'll go to Wire.
They'll offer big money and Sam will probably give George a job on the coaching team, so sadly, would make sense.
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| Quote ="Seth"That sounds like there's a gripe about the club from MacDonald?
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Quote ="Simmo71"Realistically, the recruitment of Frawley is about where we're at.
As much as I would love us to go for Croft and still believe we should, I just don't think it's realistic given where we are.
If he were to stay in SL he would go to Saints, Wigan or Cats, but most likely he'll go back to NRL, especially if Sezer can get a gig.
We are competing with Hudds, Hull & HKR for the middle places in the League.
And that is reflected in the quality of the recruitment.
It's just the current reality.
I'm prepared to give him a chance and see how he goes, but expectations are relatively low.
I still think we should be busting a gut to get Burgess.
Given he's a Leeds fan we should have the edge.
But I expect he'll go to Wire.
They'll offer big money and Sam will probably give George a job on the coaching team, so sadly, would make sense.'"
Warrington have said Tom Burgess won’t be signing for them
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As much as I would love us to go for Croft and still believe we should, I just don't think it's realistic given where we are.
If he were to stay in SL he would go to Saints, Wigan or Cats, but most likely he'll go back to NRL, especially if Sezer can get a gig.
We are competing with Hudds, Hull & HKR for the middle places in the League.
And that is reflected in the quality of the recruitment.
It's just the current reality.
I'm prepared to give him a chance and see how he goes, but expectations are relatively low.
I still think we should be busting a gut to get Burgess.
Given he's a Leeds fan we should have the edge.
But I expect he'll go to Wire.
They'll offer big money and Sam will probably give George a job on the coaching team, so sadly, would make sense.'"
Warrington have said Tom Burgess won’t be signing for them
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| From the statements put out, Frawley wants to play for Leeds. In the current climate, that is a huge plus. Another tick is that his fiancee is coming over with him. He's committed, all in. Oh, and he's currently starting at 6 in a Ricky Stuart team. His attitude is right and he's clearly a good player, despite all the negativity on here. I'll support him 100%.
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That's not right. We did. It was reported at the time and I think the money is even in that really boring accounts thread.
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