I think you're a bit of allright an'all Emma. Just don't tell Danny. Oh, you didn;t mean that. I see. Move on.

Anyway, back on topic.

Having watched Leeds since the early 1980's I'd love Adolf Hitler if he'd have been our coach in 2004.

They both ended with close on identical points percentages with one winning a Challenge Cup and the other two Grand Finals in twice the time available.

Pretty similar records all in all. I liked them both for what they did for Leeds, which was to bring credibility back to pretty much the biggest chokers and under achievers in professional sport.

Quite a few fans turned up to witness his Team's cup wins Cala mate

Anyway, why should me, a Bulls fan who knows about winnig cups, stick up for a whinos coach ?

Unbiased me matey

zzzzzzzzzzz who gives a ....

I also watched Leeds from the early 80, well mid anyway. I have seen some shower play for Leeds, and I do appreciate that we have had some arrogant coaches as well.
Maybe we were spoilt cos Muzza was such a 'people person,' with fans and seemingly with the players.

BTW - my definition of a good coach is being able to get the best out of all his players. Didn't Murray do this????

You might support some crappy grass roots team who have a poor set of players who are never going to win anything, but they have a great coach who recognise where each player needs to improve and gets the best out of each player. They are not going to win anything, but it doesn't mean he isn't a good coach.

Me too which is why I say Paul Deacon and Steve McNamara need sacking.

nah, they were all the ts!

No more embarassing then losing to cas at home in the play-offs


I must admit i'm surprised how many people i've spoke to who agree with you emm i personally thought he was sound as a bloke to talk to and a legend as a coach,i was worried he would be hounded out early when we hit that slump in 07 but he and the team turned it around to bring home the big one.

i liked murray because he had a pack that knocked the sh*t out of everything that moved!

Going by some of the posts about Smith on here, you'd have thought Smith WAS Adolf Hitler

The head-hunters








Remember dean sampson tad???

Except the Wigan pack in the 98 GF, or the Cas pack in the 98 Cup, or the cas pack in the 98 playoffs.

I liked Murray. I really liked Murray.

He couldn't win the big one though. Never has.

Smith can.

Maybe you need to be more than a "nice guy" to win the big prize.

i liked murray we got our first trophy after years of nothing.
smith well goes without saying two super league trophies and we are not being called under achievers any more

The Lost Loiners once played against a team that had Dean Sampson in it.

One of the LL said "Dont be scared of him, front up to him, get in front of him" as we lined up to face one of his runs.

Two seconds later the said LL player was smashed out of the way, laid on the floor with no front teeth.







"Front up to him, get in front of him, dont be scared", we said!

LMAO!!
It's not as easy as it looks on the tele is it

could tell you some stories about sampson.not a nice man,toe rag in fact.
but not to be told on here

Yes, I agree with you there, but what really stunk about the playoff match against Warrington is that we had been shameful for a long time before that, yet Smith told us all that we play our best rugby in the playoffs.

I did wonder at the time if he had lost the dressing room. Looking back, obviously he hadn't but the thought did cross my mind at the time.

It didn't seem to flow for us in 06 there were a few injuries and departure's aswell.
The biggest thing about the play-off match that disappointed me was the fact we'd put 50 on them a couple of weeks earlier

That one wasn't down to the pack they were awesum..... in defeat.

Just one of those games (a bit like Sunday) where the best team on the day inexplicably find a way to lose.

Told ya

All we need is cummmins as herr flick!!

I think I had to be subbed through laughing so much.

I've erased all details from the memory banks but a Andrew Schick try still lingers.