Some quality stuff in here, 15m turnover, lol!!

I'd run Leeds Rhinos part-time one day/week, peanut pushing business.

I know one thing the fans will be a lot less forgiving about the mid season slump next year saving ourselves for the play offs.
Playing his favourites regardless of form.Time to earn your money Brian

Here you go again, making things up. It's only been a couple pages. Where did the CEO come from?

Like I said Gareth, if you want to make an issue say it. You doubt it, so put something on the line. Are you all gob or prepared to do that?

You asked on other page for a weeks experience. Name the week on here, and I'll get you set up. To aid you here, I'll reduce it to a couple of days. But you need to save face here so take up my offer.

Did Phil Daly ask you to say that?

Yeah, he said that G1 doesn't have the cahoonas to follow through with it, so challenge him.

So on the numbers lay year we made half a million profit. This year had seen a bigger Gate but no finals so I would expect a moderate profit but not much. The only place we need investment is hooker. We could bring in a top name and still have plenty of change from last year's profit.

Didn't we spend a million pound on a new pitch this financial year? Accepted that's cash not profit, but would guess grass probably won't have a long useful life.

In accounting terms that would probably be accounted for over 5 to 10 years

I actually amended the post before you replied. Would not think the useful life would be so long on the grass side, but possibly the drainage side.

Unless they were sat on a load of spare cash though, it might involve a lot more interest costs.

Given it was about 50 years since the last new pitch was fitted at Headingley I would say the grass has a long life - I would assume the club will depreciate along the lines of any similar capital project i.e. 25 years at least.

Having customers in a number of countries doesn't make you a global business - global business suggests offices/factories in a host of countries. I suspect you have agents - although I don't know. If you do business in 36 countries and have a T/O of 15m that is <500k in each on an even spread. I could be wrong but if the 80/20 rule applies it suggest 12m of your sales comes from 8 countries?

What will hit Leeds in 2014 will be the loss of season ticket sales and corporate revenues - 1,000 less season tickets will be close to 200k

I didn't realise this thread was about gotcha's career.

Nice.

The thread itself however, is stupid. It's like asking ''how much money does not winning the treble cost man united every season?''.

When top clubs don't win trophies, they get less revenue.

197,556 in attendance in 2013.
194,320 in attendance in 2012.
% increase = 1.67% or an extra 3,236 in attendance.
That'll be around an extra £64K in income at £20 per head.
Thanks to the Wakefield game in Round 22.
5 home attendances were up, 8 home attendances were down.

Wakefield +6,115 on last season.
Catalan +2,294
Hull +2,047
Castleford +882
St Helens +655
London -254
Huddersfield -395
Hull KR -475
Widnes -544
Wigan -589
Bradford -1916
Warrington -2,061
Salford -2,523

We also had 1 playoff game and 1 CC game at home in both years, the 2013 total was around 4,000 more combined than 2012.

We have offices in four continents Sal, it is a global business. The 80/20 rule has no relevance to whether a business is Global or not. We do have agents in East Africa, Malaysia, and Australia also. But I was talking about the offices earlier, and two of them are manufacturing bases.

Fair enough - good enough for me

Unless you can quote how many of those in attendance at each game paid cash through the turnstiles, attendance stats are meaningless when calculating income.

It's Gareth's usual way of deviating from being wrong. He originally stated that nobody who posts on here would be qualified to advise on the running of a 10m turnover business.

When in fact two have posted since, and I bet there is another 3 or 4 posters on the Leeds board, who could equally state that at least. Across rugby league fans, probably another 50/60.

But he likes to believe he knows best.

Hetherington was on the radio in February saying that turnover this year would be up as they had "grown the business". He may well have meant underlying recurring turnover with the bonus of final appearances being measured one way or another on top of that. Obviously not having the same success this year will cost, but I wouldn't be too concerned that the business is going to fall over because of it.

Seems to be a number of defensive responses on this thread. I haven't indicated anywhere that the club is in desperate financial ill-health or is about to fall over as a consequence of the 2013 huge fail on the pitch. I asked how much the club stands to lose in income as a consequence.

Does half a million seem about right?

More than that?

Less than that?

I have to be honest, that's exactly how I read your opening post this time also.

Just a question but who spent the £1M on the new pitch, was it Leeds Rugby or Leeds Cricket Football Athletic Co?

I can't answer that, which is why I put the ? There. Maybe someone else can.

It was a query about loss of income on the back of not reaching the GF, the CC Final and no WCC in 2014... nothing more, nothing less.

I'm guessing at around half a million in income which, if true, would equate to a loss of 2,500 season ticket holders (assuming an average season ticket price of £200).