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| Quote ="Steve-O"If we were to sign Moltzen I would really hope it isn't to play centre. It's too specialised a position to 'fill in' even though much older I'd rather throw a load of cash at Lyon to come back to England
If we want a proper utility back, who has played full back, wing and centre this season, and played it well I would go Beau Ryan!
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Only GH knows what role Moltzen would play in the squad, he can play to a high standard in most of the back postions?
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| He's no centre.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"He's no centre.'"
What's Moltzen's best position and is it correct that he's got loads of potential to get to the top?
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| Moltzen can look very good taking on the defence - basically a running halfback/full back. In defence he varies from solid to absolutely awful. There was a reason the Tigers wanted him to be halfback this year and not full back, because he has games where he looks terrified of any and all kicks, and doesn't put his body on the line when required. Oddly its quite common that the very next game he looks very solid in defence.
Basically he's a halfback who can play fullback, but at the moment wouldn't stand out in either position.
If Leeds are looking to the NRL then they need to decide for what position, who actually plays there regularly and whether they are actually any good. Just because someone plays centre for instance doesn't mean they're that great - see Delaney for example. If we want a centre there are plenty of better prospects than Moltzen at a similar age who actually play centre. Whether they'd leave the NRL is another issue entirely.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Moltzen can look very good taking on the defence - basically a running halfback/full back. In defence he varies from solid to absolutely awful. There was a reason the Tigers wanted him to be halfback this year and not full back, because he has games where he looks terrified of any and all kicks, and doesn't put his body on the line when required. Oddly its quite common that the very next game he looks very solid in defence.
Basically he's a halfback who can play fullback, but at the moment wouldn't stand out in either position.
If Leeds are looking to the NRL then they need to decide for what position, who actually plays there regularly and whether they are actually any good. Just because someone plays centre for instance doesn't mean they're that great - see Delaney for example. If we want a centre there are plenty of better prospects than Moltzen at a similar age who actually play centre. Whether they'd leave the NRL is another issue entirely.'"
Evidently still nothing signed and sealed but discussions have taken place with Moltzens manager
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| Has Jodie Broughton realised his potential at Salford? Could he be a potential signing to cover winger and centre. Could he be a Atkins mould centre for Leeds. Not really seen him play the last few years but he regularly seems to be on the scoresheet, is in the England squad and looks like he has developed physically. I'm sure if offered a contract at Leeds he'd consider it.
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| Quote ="rugbyleague88"Has Jodie Broughton realised his potential at Salford? Could he be a potential signing to cover winger and centre. Could he be a Atkins mould centre for Leeds. Not really seen him play the last few years but he regularly seems to be on the scoresheet, is in the England squad and looks like he has developed physically. I'm sure if offered a contract at Leeds he'd consider it.'"
Over to you TVOC
I don't think it needed a move to Salford to realise his potential......just some better foresight by the Leeds' individuals concerned. He's a natural winger in the John Atkinson mould IMO and would be formidable outside Watkins (as indeed he once was)....with BJB/Chisholm outside Hall on the left wing of course.
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| Broughton's not a centre, has neither the hands nor the physicality.
Same reason Ashley Gibson was never going to make it at a top club.
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| Regarding Tim Moltzen, I found this piece on an Aussi forum:
He is not bad nor is he a superstar. Probably needs for his own good to get away from WT and known as the buddy of Marshall. He has to stand on his own feet and record. He could be a good utility player- halfback, fiveeigth or fullback, good in attack, has his moments in defence but some woeful clangers at times eg not keen to put his body on the line especially jump for high balls with big attackers coming at him.
His walkout on a deal to go to St George did not do him any favours in terms of ethics and his word. All of that for one more season at WT and we are not keen to re-sign him. Now his word is shot here in the NRL for some time to come.
Anyway, I hope for his own good he does go elsewhere and make a success of it. ESL could be a way to make a clean break from things at WT and go onwards.
Interesting and he seems to have supporters and detractors in equal numbers but the St George business did him no favours. If the above facts are correct any Rhinos offer may be the only contract offer he gets for 2013! He seems to be more a half back filling-in at fullback?
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| Every word I read makes me think Preston Campbell. No thanks.
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| I was thinking more Ben Walker AG i think he'd lose his bottle if he had a bad run of form and the "reaction" he'd no doubt get ala Toopi!!
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Every word I read makes me think Preston Campbell. No thanks.'"
I agree and assume you are referring to GH's attempt to sign Preston Campbell 6/7 years ago which was a bit of an embarrassment when he turned us down! However this is obviosly something about Moltzen which attracts GH, is it his ability to play half-back at a high level?
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| I'm referring to Moltzens attributes, or lack thereof.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but all Leeds have said is that Moltzen is on a long list of out of contract NRL players -not that they are even remotely interested?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I'm referring to Moltzens attributes, or lack thereof.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but all Leeds have said is that Moltzen is on a long list of out of contract NRL players -not that they are even remotely interested?'"
Precisely. Just another case of journalists only hearing what they want to here.
All clubs will have a list of out of contract SL & NRL players so they can make recruitment plans.
All McDermott said/confirmed in his interview was that Moltzen was on that list,so a factually correct statement but at no stage have we confirmed any definate interest or ongoing talks
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| From Andy Wilson in response to someone on twitter:
[urlhttps://twitter.com/bbcjohndickson/status/219717420330393600[/url
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| Quote ="craigizzard"From Andy Wilson in response to someone on twitter:
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| Quote ="craigizzard"From Andy Wilson in response to someone on twitter:
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I heard the same thing over the weekend. I'd actually heard deal done, but Leeds are stuck at the moment in announcing it due the Leeds United takover. They want full publicity when announced, and as they don't know when Leeds United are announcing their news they are witholding until that time.
Don't know if true, but holds a bit more credence after seeing a journalist put it.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I heard the same thing over the weekend. I'd actually heard deal done, but Leeds are stuck at the moment in announcing it due the Leeds United takover. They want full publicity when announced, and as they don't know when Leeds United are announcing their news they are witholding until that time.
Don't know if true, but holds a bit more credence after seeing a journalist put it.'"
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I heard the same thing over the weekend. I'd actually heard deal done, but Leeds are stuck at the moment in announcing it due the Leeds United takover. They want full publicity when announced, and as they don't know when Leeds United are announcing their news they are witholding until that time.
Don't know if true, but holds a bit more credence after seeing a journalist put it.'"
Andy Wison says the name linked to Leeds will excite the Rhinos supporters more than Moltzen? I suppose it will encourage us to watch Backchat on Sky Sport tomorrow. Any ideas?
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| Quote ="rhino2009"Andy Wison says the name linked to Leeds will excite the Rhinos supporters more than Moltzen? I suppose it will encourage us to watch Backchat on Sky Sport tomorrow. Any ideas?'"
None at all. But I would guess centre or half back. I am pretty convinced our half back pairing will be totally different next year, and fairly sure (own opinion) that we have signed Chase.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"None at all. But I would guess centre or half back. I am pretty convinced our half back pairing will be totally different next year, and fairly sure (own opinion) that we have signed Chase.'"
I was also thinking centre or half back as key areas where changes might be made in 2013. You reckon Chase could be the name AW will mention tomorrow?
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