I couldn't, frankly, care less whether the Broncos share my sentiment or not.

Gotcha, I am astonished at your appraisal of Elima. He is a fantastic player. In fact, if he could improve his discipline he'd be one of the better 2nd rowers in the league.

And to state Hauraki is better? I am better than Hauraki. He's wavered between plain awful and fairly average in his time here.

That said, I agree with your overall assessment of which players from the Bulls we crave.

I hope all clubs feel the same way about our players as Gotcha does.

Hock is the best second rower in the league by a a long distance. He has discipline issues, but still can lay claim to that stature.

If Elima was even half as good as you are suggesting, he wouldn't be at the Bulls. But you are entiltled to your view, as anyone else. Good luck to that.

Make no mistake Hauraki was a poor signing, and a poor player, I won't be arguing against that. Elima would give us nothing that he currently doesn't give us. Hauraki shouldnt' be a measure for signing any player.

The issue with Elima has never been what he can give you, more what he actually gives you. Strong carries, but a tendency to give away dumb penalties and get too easily goaded into losing it. Leeds already have that well covered IMO.

Elima has given away 1 less penalty than Ablett this year and 3 less than Delaney.

He's an aggressive player sure, but his discipline isn't as bad as you'd think.

Agreed.

So, by that rationale, Craig Huby must be really pants as he's at Cas. Can't have it both ways.

Besides, Elima won't be at the Bulls next year. He'll be at a club currently in the top 4.

Not trying to be clever but I don't understand "Elima would give us nothing that he currently doesn't give us".

So why did you introduce the comparison? I'm not suggesting we should sign Elima, besides, it's moot, he'll be at a top 4 club next year. I'm suggesting he's better than Hauraki.

Define top 4? If you mean Wigan, Wire, Leeds, Saints, there is more chance of me having a foursome with Cheryl Cole, Rihanna, and Holly Willobooby.




Like Ronseal, what it says on the tin. As poor as Hauraki is, Elima would offer us nothing more than he currently gives us.

This.

They don't reallt have the strong carries bit covered. That's why he'd be a good signing.

A team that is presently in the top 4 of the league table.

So back to France, where there is only one team to play for in Super League?

Not surprising really. An average journey man, makes sense to go back home.

He would still never get the chance to play for a top club. By top club of course I am meaning the top four regarded clubs.

Assuming we don't get anyone from Australia, Lulia would be a good signing - potentially Carmost-esque IMO. If Hardaker is a FB then it would be a good move to bring in a skilful and experienced centre who makes tries for his winger.

As for the forwards, I think Elima is a good player (AND better than Hauraki). On paper he'd do well but then again I'd have expected Griffin to have been a lot better all round and Moore to be a lot more aggressive, but neither happened.

Bateman looks like a work in progress and I don't think we'll see the best from him for another year or so. Burgess looks like a big lump with not much skill. Whitehead stands out more but I can't decide if he's more of a Paul Medley or an Andy Hay...

Michael Platt and, if the Bulls get him back from his loan at Wakefield, Paul Sykes.

and before you all think I've gone mad or Gotcha agrees........

regarded by whom?

Fact is, next year he'll be playing for a club that is presently in the top 4.

Craig Huby on the other hand.................

You couldn't have picked worse examples there than to try and tie me in to it. I have had arguments before on here, with the likes of Ritchie about how poor a players both of them are, especially Platt.



Tough luck with that one.

Lulia looks the pick of the bunch. Would be a useful signing that.

We really don't want their accountant.

Not done too well picking leaders have they? A lawyer who got them sued and an accountant who couldn't balance the books.

PMSL

no way should we go for diskin

Never thought I'd say it, but I can understand the temptation [iunder the present circumstances[/i......but what message would it send to young Liam Hood (and McShane of course) ?

Whitehead isnt good enough for Leeds Adam. Id take Bateman or Addy over him any day.

Bull Man & Bull Boy - Buy one get one free

I here Glasgow Rangers are interested in buying the club so they can be in europe next season - has anyone told them its a 13 man game !