You are correct. People tend to ignore or fabricate facts, to promote their own agenda….
No way GH is paying off a 5 yr contact now!

It was a 3 and a half year contract, I think.

fabricate? unless managers/coaches in football and RL are different its 1 year, as was the case with pardew. there was a podcast from the athletic where agents spoke about it.
they must be liars too I guess.....

That would be the case if early termination is included in the contract. Which it may well be in standard coaching contracts.

I couldn't tell you. just caught the podcast where they said it was standard procedure to get one years compensation. thought it was a bit odd as you might as well just sign one year deals. but I'm not expert on that stuff

Its not quite the same as one-year deals, as if you perform you won't get the flick. A few companies I've worked for use similar structures.

The club is in the entertainment business - something fans seem to forget - this is not life or death its a game meant to be a form of relaxation/deflection for the hum drum of everyday work/home life.

As such the club has done very well to build up the largest social media audience of any rugby club in the world. It needs to use that opportunity to communicate effectively with its customers.

That for me is not a grovelling apology but better information as what is driving these terrible performances and an understanding of Smith's coaching ethos. Smith needs to engage with the clubs customers in explaining how his radical style with in the end yield results. He is a poor communicator at the best of times - out right rude at the worst.

Customers need to a reason to keep spending the money - what good is happening what is over the horizon.

What they don't need is - the only communication they get from the club is buy this new shirt we have released - only the 5th this season.

Comparing Smith with Powell is pure nonsense. Powell experienced SL coach v inexperienced novice coach who did the job with a Sunday league team.

I didn't compare the two coaches. I likened the situation we find ourselves in to that faced by Wire last season. Them pulling the trigger would have clearly meant a very different season this year. Their Board backed their appointment decision. Will ours do the same? To not do so would have wide reaching implications right to the top of the club.

As for nonsense - you mean you disagree with me, which is fine. It's an opinion forum after all.

It was and he is now a year into it.

All true.

This is wrong. If you sack a manager the contract needs to be paid in full (unless it’s GM) if compensation cannot be agreed. If compensation cannot be agreed by both parties then the manager remains on the payroll for the length of his contract

Ill be honest, I still don't rate Powell.

Under Uk employment law anybody can be sacked within their first 2 years of employment. Uk workers have ltd rights for first 2 years. GH could sack smith tomorrow due to under performance with as little as one weeks notice, maybe a month at best, Smith would not have a leg to stand on.

He could you’re right, but then we’d end up with Dave Hockaday as coach…

only if a cokehead was in charge....

maybe I'm not a liar after all

We really need to stop using Warrington and Powell as a comparison benchmark.
Neither of them win anything!

Both are having a markedly better season than last. I'm not comparing absolute results, rather results relative to last year. Would we not be happy with the same, giving us something to build on?

I think sacking is different to redundancy. For redundancy the role has to go, not the person. Especially if you're on a short term (2 year) contract then as long as you are turning up and doing your job compensation has to be paid unless there is something in the contract that says otherwise.

I hope they don't sack him yet (even though his selection has confused me at times) as I'd like to see his team running put next season. Honestly believe recruitment and salary cap management has been our biggest issue.

I'd be very happy if the club invested in the team in the same way Warrington have.
But I'm still not sure whether Smith is the man to coach that team to success.
In the same way that I bet Warrington fans are still not sure Powell is for them.

What compensation he gets will depend on the contract he has. His position cannot be made redundant so that is not an option.

The merry go round in football seems to work that managers still get paid on a monthly basis until the end of their contract unless they find alternative employment at a similar level.

A deal could be done to pay a lump sum of a reasonable level to avoid monthly payments for years.

As anybody who employs people will tell you removing people is never cheap.

...and who are you replacing Smith with?

We have to keep faith. This is not Chelsea or even Leeds soccer clubs.

Smith needs at least post-OQ being tied up to make his mark - the below all need soprting quick smart.

GH will know this and its bizarre that this board dont either.

Fusitu'a and Sezer - Made of glass
Tetevano - Huge disciplinary and consistency issues (and now a serious health condition - really hope he gets better - forget playing for us - or anyone)
Austin - His heart is in it, but a confidence player
Bentley - Proper rocks and diamonds
Walters - Clearly spat his dummy out
Tindall - Even worse than Olpherts
Donaldson - 110% effort, but average at best

Thats a lot to replace.

he is a fraud. he refuses to change how he wants to play even though its clearly failing. and badly.
but yeah, let him spunk all the salary cap, sack him next march and waste yet another season

Its a hell of a lot to replace and i can't see it being done this offseason knowing how we operate.

We don’t need to replace all these players, or replace them like for like.

3 high quality signings in key positions would transform us IMO, alongside further development among the young lads.

We need some luck. We could do without the level of injuries constantly and we could do with one or two from the Academy really kicking on.