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| I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we announced someone for next season when GH gets back…..
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| I hope the announcement is soon. Think the fans and players need to hear something back.
I read an article recently about how it's a really good gig for ex-NRL head coaches to become assistants in NRL teams. They get to coach, which is the part they love, without all the media pressure and attention that the HC wants. They also get paid really well.
For that reason, I think Carr has to be the favorite. I'd really like John Morris, but as others have said, he'll probs be loving it at Souths now, and biding his time for another crack at the NRL.
I just don't think SL has the draw it used to over there. Interesting that Flanagan has already distanced himself from the job before GH has even arrived in Oz.
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| Itz not an ideal scenario for any coach to come in at this stage .they really need an off season training
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| I honestly don’t think DP can last another month at Wire. With the squad they have their season is even worse than ours.The fans are sticking with him ( bizarrely considering how Price was treated), but must be unrest within the club.
Would we be interested in a mid season switch? Would be a yes from me….
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| Why would we want a serial loser to become our new head coach?
To continue our current dire predicament by adding a dire coach?
Gallows humour i suppose
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| Quote ="Shabino"I honestly don’t think DP can last another month at Wire. With the squad they have their season is even worse than ours.The fans are sticking with him ( bizarrely considering how Price was treated), but must be unrest within the club.
Would we be interested in a mid season switch? Would be a yes from me….'"
It's April 2nd Shabs - you're a day too late!.
You are joking right?
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| We are in such dire straights I think we now need a proven quality coach.
I just don't think we are in the position to give the job to someone either new to it or who has failed before.
Someone like Paul Green would be ideal if you ask me. Easier said than done like. But we really are in such a diabolical mess the club really have to put their hand in their pocket and offer a proven winner some incentive to come over and help us revive this club
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| Quote ="Simmo71"It's April 2nd Shabs - you're a day too late!.
You are joking right?
100% No.'"
We are that desperate, was actually not a joke! ‘ I had a dream’…. So to speak. Or was it a nightmare…..
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| Quote ="Shabino"We are that desperate, was actually not a joke! ‘ I had a dream’…. So to speak. Or was it a nightmare…..'"
I'm really enjoying watching his work at Warrington.
Let's not spoil that by bringing him here.
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| If we can’t get someone from Oz, Shaun Wane? He fits a lot of criteria in terms of being experienced, able to bring in and develop young players, and could certainly make us a dog of a team to play against.
Obviously “he’s a Wigan man”, but I think that kind of dynamic applies more to football than rugby, tbh, where there isn’t the same tribalism. I think he’s had his peak as a coach, but failing someone from OZ either him or Tony Smith would be my choice.
As a club, we need to forget about trying to create another “era”, and move on. Golden generation was a one-off and can’t replicated, they had a special dynamic due to growing up together, we’re trying to create a similar dynamic with different players today and it’s not possible.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"If we can’t get someone from Oz, Shaun Wane? He fits a lot of criteria in terms of being experienced, able to bring in and develop young players, and could certainly make us a dog of a team to play against.
Obviously “he’s a Wigan man”, but I think that kind of dynamic applies more to football than rugby, tbh, where there isn’t the same tribalism. I think he’s had his peak as a coach, but failing someone from OZ either him or Tony Smith would be my choice.
As a club, we need to forget about trying to create another “era”, and move on. Golden generation was a one-off and can’t replicated, they had a special dynamic due to growing up together, we’re trying to create a similar dynamic with different players today and it’s not possible.'"
No. I think his ship has sailed at SL level. He’s well suited to the England job, but don’t think he’d be a right fit long term for us…..
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| Quote ="Shabino"No. I think his ship has sailed at SL level. He’s well suited to the England job, but don’t think he’d be a right fit long term for us…..'"
Maybe, but I’m not sure a perfect long-term fit exists.
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| Its not someone to 'fit' we need, its someone to come in and revamp the place from top to bottom. We've seen that the Leeds DNA is an utterly laughable myth - most of it left in 2015 and was all gone by the end of 2017. That means someone who is willing to be utterly ruthless and knows exactly what they want. That's why you want someone either vastly experienced or someone from the opposite end who's desperate to prove themselves.
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| Quote ="Once were Loiners"Its not someone to 'fit' we need, its someone to come in and revamp the place from top to bottom. We've seen that the Leeds DNA is an utterly laughable myth - most of it left in 2015 and was all gone by the end of 2017. That means someone who is willing to be utterly ruthless and knows exactly what they want. That's why you want someone either vastly experienced or someone from the opposite end who's desperate to prove themselves.'"
Exactly this. I'd go for experience if only because they might have more say over who their assistants are whereas a relative rookie might find themselves saddled with JJB and Long. Whether GH would wish to pay up the contracts of that pair if it can be avoided is a moot point. Hopefully that won't be what decides who's appointed though I've a sinking feeling it might.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Exactly this. I'd go for experience if only because they might have more say over who their assistants are whereas a relative rookie might find themselves saddled with JJB and Long. Whether GH would wish to pay up the contracts of that pair if it can be avoided is a moot point. Hopefully that won't be what decides who's appointed though I've a sinking feeling it might.'"
Good point. There’s no way the club sacking, and paying out lump sums to all the coaching team. They are probably giving Agar another role so as not to pay out the 6/12 of whatever they’d owe him!!
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| Quote ="Shabino"No. I think his ship has sailed at SL level. He’s well suited to the England job, but don’t think he’d be a right fit long term for us…..'"
Wane isn’t the answer. Has he even won a game as England coach yet?
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| Quote ="ocdstephen"Latest odds for next HC...
Tony Smith: 5/2
Danny Ward: 7/2
Ryan Carr: 5/1
Anthony Seibold: 6/1
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Michael Monaghan: 8/1
Cameron Ciraldo:10/1
JJB: 12/1
Danny McGuire: 16/1
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I'd like to see Seibold but not sure how contractually tied in he is with RFU.'"
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Wane isn’t the answer. Has he even won a game as England coach yet?'"
How many games has he played? 1?
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| The spice boys have been underwhelming for years. They are treated like royalty in Warrington and bar a few CC wins have been perennial bottlers especially recently.
Powell has come in and is trying to change the attitude and cliques that are rife there but I think they have a shed load of players who have zero loyalty to Warrington, zero real interest in them and are happy to take the £££ and adulation without the effort. Sure there’s 8/9 out of contract at end of year so just DGAFF which way it gos so he’s swimming against the tide atm.
This group did Price in and if they continue to flex the way they currently are they’ll do Powell in too, the board need to come out and back the coach and in no uncertain terms let the shirkers know Powell is here to stay and it’s them who’ll be rinsed out not him.
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| Quote ="Once were Loiners"Its not someone to 'fit' we need, its someone to come in and revamp the place from top to bottom. We've seen that the Leeds DNA is an utterly laughable myth - most of it left in 2015 and was all gone by the end of 2017. That means someone who is willing to be utterly ruthless and knows exactly what they want. That's why you want someone either vastly experienced or someone from the opposite end who's desperate to prove themselves.'"
ALL. OF. THIS.
Stains tried to keep their great teams ethos and legends on a ventilator with Cunningham, look how that turned out. The cycle needs to end, leave it in the past where it belongs and stop harping on about it etc. these are new players and need to start their own stories not have constant lectures on the 2004-2017 class.
Constantly trying to hark back to a different generation every two mins is folly, this needs immediately breaking apart and new fresh ideas brought in something that allegedly was wanted by Furner but was kiboshed by those within who wanted to cling to past glories, it’s over, for gawd sakes let’s move on!
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| Quote ="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"The spice boys have been underwhelming for years. They are treated like royalty in Warrington and bar a few CC wins have been perennial bottlers especially recently.
Powell has come in and is trying to change the attitude and cliques that are rife there but I think they have a shed load of players who have zero loyalty to Warrington, zero real interest in them and are happy to take the £££ and adulation without the effort. Sure there’s 8/9 out of contract at end of year so just DGAFF which way it gos so he’s swimming against the tide atm.
This group did Price in and if they continue to flex the way they currently are they’ll do Powell in too, the board need to come out and back the coach and in no uncertain terms let the shirkers know Powell is here to stay and it’s them who’ll be rinsed out not him.
Or they could just just totally bottle it and sack him and the cycle of bottling continues….'"
As a wire fan of 30+ years I totally agree 100% with every word. Not sure what the OP is on about tbh? Or not sure what he is ON?
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"How many games has he played? 1?'"
Yet he’s been in the full time job for over 2 years, what a complete waste of money having a full time head coach for a side that never plays.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Yet he’s been in the full time job for over 2 years, what a complete waste of money having a full time head coach for a side that never plays.'"
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| Shane Flanagan rumoured to be taking over from Maguire at wests tigers.
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| Quote ="christopher"Shane Flanagan rumoured to be taking over from Maguire at wests tigers.'"
Maguire could be an option as someone with no previous links to the club to remove the rotten culture we've been trying to get rid of for 6 years. But I want to watch rugby not wrestling so not for me.
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