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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"So basically, what he wants is a club where he'll be allowed to go out on the lash during the week without anyone trying to stop him?
If that is the case, he's a bloody idiot. No such club exists.'"
I say again, there is a club, Leeds. Just depends who you are it seems. Bailey and Delaney are very often on the lash.
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| Quote ="DHM"Yet they managed to get Harris to sign a significant contract extension the year before he went to Union, and thus demanded a substantial fee for the move. Not to mention the contract that allowed Leeds to take legal proceedings and win after his return in Bradford shirt.
Pretty f*****g good deal if you ask me.'"
Agree with all that. But my point was that the club would have failed in any attempt to retain him, had it been minded to do so.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"So basically, what he wants is a club where he'll be allowed to go out on the lash during the week without anyone trying to stop him?
If that is the case, he's a bloody idiot. No such club exists.'"
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Ask Iestyn he too was contracted didn't stop him exiting when Wales came calling.
Can see GH paying a player a reasonable wedge and not playing - if Zac wants out he will leave and there is not a lot GH can do. The same happens in reverse in GH wants a player out so he can't have it both ways'"
It's not a difficult point David. Leeds hold the cards. They can stop him going anywhere during the remainder of his contract. I'm not saying they will, but they can.
If he goes it will be on Leeds terms. Just like Iestyn Harris.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I say again, there is a club, Leeds. Just depends who you are it seems. Bailey and Delaney are very often on the lash.'"
So you keep saying.
Have Leeds ever fined both publicly for this alleged behaviour?
Has Bailey ever been booted from the rep squads he's made for this alleged behaviour?
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| He's currently being extremely random on Twitter again. I hope he's not back on it.
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| Is he? Seems like he's having a night in on the xbox with a dominos.
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| Quote ="G1"So you keep saying.
Have Leeds ever fined both publicly for this alleged behaviour?
Has Bailey ever been booted from the rep squads he's made for this alleged behaviour?'"
Exactly. It's if your face fits. And I say that on the basis of you can't/shouldn't pull one individual if ignoring the same with a couple of others. Just because not fined publicly doesn't mean it hasn't happened many times. There was a case in point not just three weeks ago at the station pub with Bailey and Gareth Rayner, which the Landlord reported to the club.
As for rep squads, was that bit just a laugh? You said Bailey and Rep squad in same sentence.
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| whilst on the topic of naughty boys getting into trouble,I have been informed that Australia's billy slater spent some time detained by the Manchester police after an incident in a nightclub.
Let's see if this incident is reported and dealt with in the same manner as the recent England indiscretions
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"whilst on the topic of naughty boys getting into trouble,I have been informed that Australia's billy slater spent some time detained by the Manchester police after an incident in a nightclub.
Let's see if this incident is reported and dealt with in the same manner as the recent England indiscretions'"
Then surely he needs kicking out of the squad and sacked by his club, if true. I hear Brett Kearney could be available as a replacement for Melbourne.
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| Quote ="G1"So you keep saying.
Have Leeds ever fined both publicly for this alleged behaviour?
Has Bailey ever been booted from the rep squads he's made for this alleged behaviour?'"
I often think the problem with the majority of the current SL players is boredom between training.
Most people (friends & family) are at work when the players usually have down time after training. Hence why the players themselves are tweeting about been at Nandos/Costa or White Rose Centre/ local Tattoo joint etc.
Its all about self discipline. These guys are in a very fortunate position, one that most of us can dream of and to break club rules whilst on International duties shows lack of respect in my book.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Exactly. It's if your face fits. And I say that on the basis of you can't/shouldn't pull one individual if ignoring the same with a couple of others. Just because not fined publicly doesn't mean it hasn't happened many times. There was a case in point not just three weeks ago at the station pub with Bailey and Gareth Rayner, which the Landlord reported to the club.
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I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean by "Exactly". I'm not agreeing with your inference. I'm asking you if you know or have any evidence that Bailey and Delaney have ever conducted themselves the way Zak has done, becauise I can't recall Leeds ever publicly fining and admonishin either in the way they have done recently with Zak?
You're really suggesting they're "picking on" one of their best young players?
Quote As for rep squads, was that bit just a laugh? You said Bailey and Rep squad in same sentence'" Why would it be a laugh? You are aware that Bailey has been in several representatrive squads over the year aren't you? You're also aware he's never been kicked out of any of them aren't you?
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| Quote ="G1"I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean by "Exactly". I'm not agreeing with your inference. I'm asking you if you know or have any evidence that Bailey and Delaney have ever conducted themselves the way Zak has done, becauise I can't recall Leeds ever publicly fining and admonishin either in the way they have done recently with Zak?
You're really suggesting they're "picking on" one of their best young players?
Why would it be a laugh? You are aware that Bailey has been in several representatrive squads over the year aren't you? You're also aware he's never been kicked out of any of them aren't you?'"
Didn't realise Zac had spent time at her majestys pleasure? So Bailey definitely has evidence of similar behaviour if not worse. I am not sure how the club handled it internally apart fom getting him the cheapest barrister they could find. Pity they could not have used Woodgate or Bowyers!!
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Didn't realise Zac had spent time at her majestys pleasure? So Bailey definitely has evidence of similar behaviour if not worse. I am not sure how the club handled it internally apart fom getting him the cheapest barrister they could find. Pity they could not have used Woodgate or Bowyers!!'"
The key words to that paragraph being "I am not sure". You could have just left the rest out.
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| Quote ="G1"I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean by "Exactly". I'm not agreeing with your inference. I'm asking you if you know or have any evidence that Bailey and Delaney have ever conducted themselves the way Zak has done, becauise I can't recall Leeds ever publicly fining and admonishin either in the way they have done recently with Zak? '"
I mean exactly, which is what I put, In agreement that the club have not publicly disciplined Bailey and Delaney.
Why I can't answer, considering it is well known that Bailey and Delaney are very often on the lash, and very often seen, how one lad gets publicly dressed down for it, is a question you would need to put to the club. My own interpretation unless you can put another slant on it, is that they operate double standards.
I already gave an example of just three weeks back, the landlord of the Station pub reporting Bailey to the club. For what he reported, I am surprised Bailey is still in employment, but it appears he is.
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| I'm embarrassed for certain posters after reading their comments on this thread.
Claiming to have inside knowledge on the activities of our players when it's clear that they know nothing at all.
It's schoolyard stuff, anyone can see your talking bollox! Give it a rest!
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I mean exactly, which is what I put, In agreement that the club have not publicly disciplined Bailey and Delaney.
Why I can't answer, considering it is well known that Bailey and Delaney are very often on the lash, and very often seen, how one lad gets publicly dressed down for it, is a question you would need to put to the club. My own interpretation unless you can put another slant on it, is that they operate double standards.
I already gave an example of just three weeks back, the landlord of the Station pub reporting Bailey to the club. For what he reported, I am surprised Bailey is still in employment, but it appears he is.'"
I have seen Bailey and Delaney out many times and have to say have never seen them worse for wear, far from it.
On another note what makes you think it is just drink that has caused Zac to be disciplined?
Looking at it from the outside it might seem a little OTT that he has copped all this grief for a couple of nights on the lash.
But then again I could be wrong.
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| Quote ="FGB"I'm embarrassed for certain posters after reading their comments on this thread.
Claiming to have inside knowledge on the activities of our players when it's clear that they know nothing at all.
It's schoolyard stuff, anyone can see your talking bollox! Give it a rest!'"
Whilst ever society are using social media twitter/face book whether it be Katy price of Zak Hardacre. They are inviting the world into their lives. Like I said in my earlier post. It’s all about self discipline. Nobodies denying these players a social life. Maybe the likes of twitter have left certain players wide open to abuse.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Something else to put out there on the daft lad theory. People have their own views and I respect that, but I have mine.
I was at Thorpe Park Spa last week whilst the England boys were there, and was talking with James Graham, Sean O'Loughlin, Mossop, Sam Burgess, Tom Briscoe. What surprised me is that none of those players had tattoos at all. I just thought it was the in thing with these players, and to me no surprise that the mentality of those covered in them always seems to follow the same way.'"
If this was Big Brother I would have nominated you for eviction every week, your only redeeming feature seems to be you are a Leeds fan. That said when I registered I was amazed the nickname " harmless idiot" was available if you would like it I will donate it to you free of charge. As for not noticing a tattoo the size of the one on Brisco's arm which as you said was right infront of you how can we take seriously your opinion on how someone played when you are obviously a Mr Magoo type character. Also it's slightly concerning the amount of Leeds players you meet, in Pubs and now Swimming pools.
This site need people like you though, life would be dull without your constant bollox
PS if you dont want the harmless part of my name I'll split it and you can have the Idiot bit
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| Quote ="harmless idiot"If this was Big Brother I would have nominated you for eviction every week, your only redeeming feature seems to be you are a Leeds fan. That said when I registered I was amazed the nickname " harmless idiot" was available if you would like it I will donate it to you free of charge. As for not noticing a tattoo the size of the one on Brisco's arm which as you said was right infront of you how can we take seriously your opinion on how someone played when you are obviously a Mr Magoo type character. Also it's slightly concerning the amount of Leeds players you meet, in Pubs and now Swimming pools.
This site need people like you though, life would be dull without your constant bollox
PS if you dont want the harmless part of my name I'll split it and you can have the Idiot bit'"
Welcome to southstander, you could be a great additionicon_smile.gif
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| Quote ="harmless idiot"If this was Big Brother I would have nominated you for eviction every week, your only redeeming feature seems to be you are a Leeds fan. That said when I registered I was amazed the nickname " harmless idiot" was available if you would like it I will donate it to you free of charge. As for not noticing a tattoo the size of the one on Brisco's arm which as you said was right infront of you how can we take seriously your opinion on how someone played when you are obviously a Mr Magoo type character. Also it's slightly concerning the amount of Leeds players you meet, in Pubs and now Swimming pools.
This site need people like you though, life would be dull without your constant bollox
PS if you dont want the harmless part of my name I'll split it and you can have the Idiot bit'"
You really didn't need to set up another user name for that.
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| Genuis. Pure genius.
Hope you don't think it's me Gotcha. Whoever it is, I like it.
Anyway, let me get this straight. You want to know why the club haven't disciplined Bailey and Delnay for things they haven't actually done?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Didn't realise Zac had spent time at her majestys pleasure? '" Neither did I. I never esaid he had.
Quote So Bailey definitely has evidence of similar behaviour if not worse.'" Similar? Do you know more about Zak's conduct that was in the press release? If so, please spill the beans. I didn't realise it was as serious as that.
Quote I am not sure how the club handled it internally '" Neither does Gotcha but you'll both be wading in with your twopenneths to say the club got it wrong no doubt.
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| Quote ="G1"Genuis. Pure genius.
Hope you don't think it's me Gotcha. Whoever it is, I like it.
Anyway, let me get this straight. You want to know why the club haven't disciplined Bailey and Delnay for things they haven't actually done?'"
No, I know it isn't you. All credit, your no coward.
And No, I don't want to know why Bailey and Delaney not disciplined for something they haven't done. I want to know why the club is operating a double standards system, based on what Bailey and Delaney have actually done.
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