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| Quote ="BaldRick"Wouldn't be acceptable . Lose the French team and replace hem with Bradford .'"
Ridiculous. Catalans would be in a top 8 of super league clubs. Just because they are french doesnt mean a thing. The quicker people realise that they deserve to be here the better. They outperform Castleford, Wakefield, Salford and Harlequins in almost every disipline.
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| Looking at the NRL 'whipping boys'....is that not why they are hiking up the SC, so that they have more power to pull in a bigger pool of talent, rather than losing out to RU?
On the proposal of 10 team super league and 10 team championship and splitting the money equally. How much do Championship sides currently get to share between them from TV? This would then be factored into the equation when doling out money to all 20 clubs. Plus I am in favour of the break for origin etc.
The 20minute breaks would leave us a country mile behind at international level, or should I say even further behind than we are already.
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| Quote ="Road To Nowhere"Merged Hull club - playing at the KC with a potential to be the best supported team in the league.
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Or the worst. Have you ever been to Hull? The East/West divide in Rugby League actually means something to people. God forbid we retain anything in a sport that actually means something.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Or the worst. Have you ever been to Hull? The East/West divide in Rugby League actually means something to people. God forbid we retain anything in a sport that actually means something.'"
Fine. No merger, no place.
Might reprieve Bradford.
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| The idea of merging the Hull clubs is ridiculous.
They can't stand each other. In 2 or 3 generations time, it might work. But for the next 100 years at least there'd be nothing but trouble with it.
It would be a marketing nightmare! There's no way you could keep both sets of fans happy. Moving to the KC would instantly get the Robins fans backs up for a start. Then every single season you'd have... "That kit looks too much like a KR Kit. I'm not having that." (or vice versa). Half the crowd would refuse to sing Old Faithful, the other half refuse to sing Red Red Robin.
It's not just a case of stick three crowns on the badge, have a bird as a mascot, play in Red, Black & White, move to the bigger stadium and we're done. There's history there.
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| 10 Team Super League has no room for sentiment. There isn't room for both of them. There is room for one of them or a combination of both of them. Otherwise they don't come to the party and Bradford get a reprieve.
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| Quote ="Road To Nowhere"10 Team Super League has no room for sentiment. There isn't room for both of them. There is room for one of them or a combination of both of them. Otherwise they don't come to the party and Bradford get a reprieve.'"
What if 10 team Super League had promotion and relegation? There'd be room for them both then.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"What if 10 team Super League had promotion and relegation? There'd be room for them both then.'"
No promotion and relegation from 10 team Super League. Then it would be essentially a 9 team competition with one team being a rubbing rag every week.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"The idea of merging the Hull clubs is ridiculous.
They can't stand each other. In 2 or 3 generations time, it might work. But for the next 100 years at least there'd be nothing but trouble with it.
It would be a marketing nightmare! There's no way you could keep both sets of fans happy. Moving to the KC would instantly get the Robins fans backs up for a start. Then every single season you'd have... "That kit looks too much like a KR Kit. I'm not having that." (or vice versa). Half the crowd would refuse to sing Old Faithful, the other half refuse to sing Red Red Robin.
It's not just a case of stick three crowns on the badge, have a bird as a mascot, play in Red, Black & White, move to the bigger stadium and we're done. There's history there.'"
Who really gives a flying fook about our interbred east coast genetically deficient neighbours?
Not me for one.
Merge the two clubs – they still couldn’t make a decent team between them. I really don’t care if they’ve been around for 100+ years, they’re morons.
My only real concern would be that it would create a set of Super Morons with the combined idiocy from both clubs. It’d be like Planet of the Apes meets Deliverance.
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| Quote ="Road To Nowhere"10 Team Super League has no room for sentiment. There isn't room for both of them. There is room for one of them or a combination of both of them. Otherwise they don't come to the party and Bradford get a reprieve.'"
Are you reading from Maurice Lyndsay's press release circa 1995? Surprised you haven't mentioned Calder RLFC.
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| There was an earlier mention of it....
someone alluded to merging a few clubs in Wakefield area to produce something very similar to Calder RLFC.
Don't need mergers, just let teams play. The principal of a 10 team Super League has potential.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Who really gives a flying fook about our interbred east coast genetically deficient neighbours?
Not me for one.
Merge the two clubs – they still couldn’t make a decent team between them. I really don’t care if they’ve been around for 100+ years, they’re morons.
My only real concern would be that it would create a set of Super Morons with the combined idiocy from both clubs. It’d be like Planet of the Apes meets Deliverance.'"
You didn't used to be a low-rent troll. What happened?
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| Quote ="Road To Nowhere"10 Team Super League has no room for sentiment. There isn't room for both of them. There is room for one of them or a combination of both of them. Otherwise they don't come to the party and Bradford get a reprieve.'"
I assume you're on a wind-up, but the day RL has no room for sentiment will be the day I stop taking any interest.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"You didn't used to be a low-rent troll. What happened?'"
I have this thing for Hull/Hullians - militant fekkers the lot of them.
With enough strategically placed Semtex it would be possible to detach Kings Town from the rest of the country and it could then be it’s own independent state.
Win win for everyone.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I assume you're on a wind-up, but the day RL has no room for sentiment will be the day I stop taking any interest.'"
No, I'm serious. It's a kick up the booty the game needs.
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| I'd go to a 12 team league with 1 up 1 down but the newly promoted team to get 1yrs exemption of relegation.
I'd also impliment a top 5 with 1st getting the week off and then a straight knock out system.
Another thing i'd like to see is regular home and away test series' against the Aussie and Kiwis at u16,u18 and u20 level.
I'd also revert back to GB with "minor nations" competiing in their own minor WC with the winner qualifying for the bigger version.
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| Quote ="Road To Nowhere"No, I'm serious. It's a kick up the booty the game needs.'"
If you have to remove the soul of the game to save the body, perhaps the body isn't worth saving. I'd have no interest in your new league.
I guess we'll just agree to differ.
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| Quote ="G1"Are you reading from Maurice Lyndsay's press release circa 1995? Surprised you haven't mentioned Calder RLFC.'"
It just shows what a visionary Maurice Lindsay was. however the flat cappers held him back. What has happened to all those tens of thousands who marched the streets of Cas, Wakey and Fev. Why are they not supporting their teams now?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It just shows what a visionary Maurice Lindsay was. however the flat cappers held him back. What has happened to all those tens of thousands who marched the streets of Cas, Wakey and Fev. Why are they not supporting their teams now?'"
Blisters from all the marching. True story.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It just shows what a visionary Maurice Lindsay was. however the flat cappers held him back. What has happened to all those tens of thousands who marched the streets of Cas, Wakey and Fev. Why are they not supporting their teams now?'"
They can't afford it, Thatcher stole all their jobs.
The true story behind it all can be found [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Strikehere[/url
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It just shows what a visionary Maurice Lindsay was. however the flat cappers held him back. What has happened to all those tens of thousands who marched the streets of Cas, Wakey and Fev. Why are they not supporting their teams now?'"
I think I would temper the visionary term, by adding; aceeding to Sky's demands.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It just shows what a visionary Maurice Lindsay was. '"
I always thought Lindsay's big vision was how to resurrect and then bankrupt the biggest name in the sport.
Re - The proposals for mergers, if the vision was to rile most of, if not all, the heartland Rugby League communitites then he succeeded and then some.
Of course in the end the biggest thing that came out of the Sky SL deal was the switch from winter to summer and even that wasn't a Lyndsay vision as that came off the back of Messers Hetherington and Caisley as I recall.
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| Quote ="Remarkable_Rhinos"I've just been looking at the league table and noticed that Warrington's points difference is 609!
Firstly, well done Wire! Excellent stuff! (That hurts!)
According to my research (Wikipedia!), which I'd really like verifying by somebody who knows the stats to be correct (tvoc?!), if they keep above the 600 mark, this is only the 3rd 600+ points difference of the SL era.
They've also got a 39 point positive swing in the 3 remaining matches to gain in order to break the record.
They would NOT however, be the first team to have a 600+ points difference to finish 2nd. That "honour" goes to us.
[iTeam - Year - Points Difference - Final League Position[/i
[i[uLeeds - 2005 - 647 - 2nd
Bradford - 2001 - 646 - 1st
[iWarrington - 2011 - 609 - 2nd (with 3 games still to play)[/i
Bradford - 2000 - 596 - 1st
Leeds - 2004 - 594 - 1st[/u[/i
*All stats are from Wikipedia. I'm not sure how accurate they are!
Edit - Stats altered slightly and are now confirmed. Bloody Wikipedia.'"
the leeds and bradford totals are from after the play offs too
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| Quote ="rawzy!"the leeds and bradford totals are from after the play offs too'"
Why do you say that?
The totals are all just from the League campaigns.
Leeds - 2005 - Pts For 1152 (R), Pts Agst 505, Pts Diff 647 (R)
=#0000BFBradford - 2001 - Pts For 1120, Pts Agst 474, Pts Diff 646
Bradford - 2000 - Pts For 1004, Pts Agst 408, Pts Diff 596
=#0000BFLeeds - 2004 - Pts For 1037, Pts Agst 443, Pts Diff 594
(R) = SL Era Record
Warrington - 2011 - Pts For 999, Pts Agst 377, Pts Diff 622
*As Warrington still have two games to play they haven't yet earned or finalised their place on the table.
The four current highest points differences all occurred in 28 game League seasons. Should Warrington bust into the Leeds/Bradford love in they will have done so while playing one fewer game.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It just shows what a visionary Maurice Lindsay was. '" Or it was a pre-cursor to shady dealings by News Internationals Sunday broadsheets who chose not to pulblish an article about a high profile figure near the to of the RFL in return for his cooperation.
Allegedly.
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