GH on the hunt in Aus at the weekend https://www.therhinos.co.uk/2022/03/28/ ... herington/

GH on the hunt in Aus at the weekend https://www.therhinos.co.uk/2022/03/28/ ... herington/

GH visits Australia most years on the lookout for players.
Think he`s missed his little jaunt these past few years though.

COVID has been a problem. Australia's borders only opened up very recently. He wouldn't have come looking for a coach had he visited this off-season in any event.

So, Hetherington is off to Australia to interview coaches.

Who do we want?

My choice - in order would be:

1 - Shane Flanagan
2 - Cameron Ciraldo
3 - Stephen Kearney
4 - Paul Green
5 - John Cartwright

UK wise - Shaun Wane as an absolute last resort.

Knowing us, we'll end up with Ian Millward or Tony Rae.

Reading club comments and media stuff it does seem more than likely your new coach will be an Aussie. Be interesting to see how quickly the successful candidate can be in place to how fast your season gets back on track because the current incumbent seems to be no better than his predecessor.

from the other thread this chap is heavily linked and highly rates

TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:
I think John Morris would be the perfect fit for Leeds. He is such an underated coach and dont forget, it was he that guided the sharks reserve team to the minor premiership. He also managed two 7th placed finishes in the NRL despite having no money to spend due to salary cap. It speaks volumes that when he was sacked, the senior players of cronulla wanted to go on strike.

It’s an important call, but there is far more factors to come into play to revive our fortunes. Possibly the only thing we fans can control is to keep the faith and keep turning up. ‘When the going gets tough….’ And all that.

It's being reported by Mat Shaw that Flanagan is out of running, wants NRL not SL at this stage.. not seen anything quote wise from Flanagan though..

Cartwright was poor as head coach (he was there when the party gang developed from whom we signed Beau Falloon), Kearney's record wasn't great and Green had no idea what to do when JT retired (a bit similar to Leeds post Golden Generation). Flanagan won the comp but there's a lot of suspicion over the peptide saga.

I'd rather go for an assistant coach who wants to prove themselves than one of the many failed head coaches around. Whether Ciraldo fits the bill or wants to move is another question.

Kearney, absolutely no thanks, awful record as a club coach. Don’t know much about Ciraldo,
The rest not filling me with much confidence either.
Flanagan is the only one if real quality on that list, but a bit iffy and doubt he wants to cone over here.

John Morris or Ryan Carr I think are my picks from the 'list', with John Morris being the preferred choice.

Not sure we'll get a head coach from Austin who has got an astounding record or one without baggage.

The choice is from either end of the scale - really experienced (a Brian Smith type - but not Brian Smith) or an ambitious assistant. Definitely not one of those coaches who have failed as head coach and are now an assistant - that was Furner's background.

One thing GH has to do is try to meet people who are really in the know - Bellamy, Bennett, Gould. Regardless of coach I'd love to get Gould over at the end of the year to do a thorough review of the club from top to bottom.

What is betting that we get an out of work English coach e.g. Paul Anderson - it could be worse we could get John Kear!! The same coaches apply for every job that comes up and they will applied for this job too.

Latest odds for next HC...

Tony Smith: 5/2
Danny Ward: 7/2
Ryan Carr: 5/1
Anthony Seibold: 6/1
Shane Flanagan: 6/1
Michael Monaghan: 8/1
Cameron Ciraldo:10/1
JJB: 12/1
Danny McGuire: 16/1
James Webster:16/1

I'd like to see Seibold but not sure how contractually tied in he is with RFU.

That’s a really mixed bag. It’s all opinions and who knows how any will go. I don’t know much about some of them but I’d prefer Flanagan, Carr, Tony Smith in that order. I nothing know of Ciraldo.

For me Think it’s important whoever gets it really wants the challenge, even if using it as a stepping stone to the NRL. I think it’s a big task at present and whoever gets it will have to do a lot of good work.

I don’t fancy Seibold as he seems to me to be excessively academic about coaching. Don’t get me wrong we need a smart coach but RL is a tough game and I think we need a coach who carries a bit of personality, authority, respect and even a bit of fear.

Interesting John Morris is not even in the list.

Although the noise is Flanagan wants a head coach job in the NRL, they are not easy to find and maybe just maybe he could use us as an advert to get back as a head coach in NRL.

The other factor in all of this is family, does wife have a good job in Aus, how old are kids etc. no idea on any of that. Probably suits a bitterly divorced, workaholic, rugby genius, fingers crossed the sleeve meets one at the weekend.

I don't want Seibold from that list and I also don't think hes actually a contender. He is over here because things went wrong for him in the NRL and England RU seem to be going backwards so unsure of his impact there. If he does get the Leeds job what price Sinfield being his replacement with the England team!

Not sure I've seen Morris mentioned anywhere else but on this forum. However having read a bit about him he'd be my pick. Proven record of success in the lower grade, proven record of developing young players and a good record (in very testing circumstances) as a head coach in the NRL. Other than that I'd say Carr. Flanagan has apparently ruled himself out. Not bothered about that as he'd bring too much baggage, in my opinion.

I agree, John Morris is my pick, I’m not sure that the Ryan Carr fit would be good right now after being involved in the club previously and I think we need a total fresh face at the top

Head Coach - John Morris
Assistant Coaches - Danny McGuire, Jamie Jones-Buchanan
Reserves & Academy - Chev Walker
Scholarship - Mark Butterill

Does JJB offer anything as a coach be it head coach or assistant?

We dont know do we cos we dont see the training or what the assistants do. One thing is for certain giving his press conferences is we look like a pub team with him in overall charge. Its an embarrasing and humbling time for the club right now.

I mean if this was JJBs chance to show he could be a future Leeds head coach the signs arent very good. Phil Daly or the media dept should really start cutting these press conferences short.

We need a new appointment and the right appointment in place urgently.

Give the bloke a chance . He’s only been interim coach due 1 week and has no time to make any changes. Yes he waffles, yes he probably used bible jibberish in the dressing room, but he’s passionate and patient. He won’t loose his head, and we need that .

Hes just not the right man Shabbsy i think we all know that really. We need the right man in charge asap. Its a very difficult situation.

Fingers crossed the team shows some pride, fight and bottle tonight and gives us some positivity.

Spoke to my mate in Aus who's a huge Sharks fan and he said there's no mention of Morris coming over. He did a great job with the Sharks but he said he was talked about for another HC job over there. Feels he will get another crack pretty soon.

Yeah. No such thing as ‘the right man’, think the Furner show proved that. We need a more experienced man. But in the meantime we need to get behind JJB as he head coach for now. Think if we keep Saints under 50 it’s a result for JJB tonight….
Then rebuild

I'd have Carr of Flanagan from that list ideally.. i get the feeling the appointment will come from an NRL based coach..