Spot on. He's probably taking up a chunk of salary cap too. What a waste of time. When are we going to act and behave like a proper big club?

I seem to remember Sean Long being regarded as surplus to requirements by Wigan, who didn't offer him a contract. Whatever happened to him?

I'm not quite sure why people feel the need to judge a player as soon as they are signed and before they see what a change of club and training regime can do, or even judge at all being that several highly paid individuals at the club have already done all the judging with regard to players ability, availability, finance and squad requirement - its their job to do all that and they stand or fall by those decisions.

By comparison anyone who simply pays their money at the turnstile generally knows nothing at all of any relevance ...

He grew some silly hair, made a few bets at the bookies and then got paid lots for sitting on the sidelines at Hull?

Or alternatively, they will let these two go as well



But it's a fair point you make; I know virtually nothing of what's available to wigan's in terms of young talent.

Totally agree.

I mean, even if Wigan think he's a load of old tosh and threw him at Leeds, he could just totally click with Mac, enjoying playing for us and do really well. Alternatively, he could have gone on to be Wigan's best ever player had he stayed, and turn out doing nothing for us at all.

You're second point is spot on too... it's our scouts/coach job to find these players and make sure they fit. Why people don't just let them do their job and get on board with their choices is beyond me.

I support Leeds. To me, that doesn't just mean turning up and cheering on match day, it means SUPPORTING the club. Like I would support my Mrs-to-be if she was moving jobs, or like I'll support my mum when the t'old man goes (assuming it's that way around). It doesn't mean, "blindly following" or "just agreeing" (Before Rhinos Feckwits gets involved!). I don't agree with everything the Mrs does, but I'd support her wholeheartedly once she'd decided to do it. That's how it's supposed to work IMO. I support this club, I might not agree with every decision they make (like at times last season when we played Smith over Donald?! WTF!? Anyway), but hey ho, they're much better placed than me to make the decision in the first place. Our job as supporters is to do just that, support. Not just f##king moan all the time and argue for the sake of arguing. Really gets my back up.

Back to the kid... he's followed us since he was 6. I know if I was hoping to break into RL, playing for the club I supported would be the ideal. It can't always happen that way (ask Ryan Atkins!) but if the contract is offered... it's a no-brainer if you ask me.

Has he been put into the first team squad or will he be playing academy level all year?

I've said all along that you are in decline.

Yet you lot sign most of our cast-offs.

Interesting.

lets see the kid play in our system before casting judgement

pace is hardly a trait that will hold you back in our game,and irrespective of your age too




regards paul deacon



let's give him a chance shall we rogues?
imo there could be some rich pickings available from this very successful wigan academy production system in the not too distant future,as not all of these super star juniors at the club presently,are ever going to fit into the elite senior squad at wigan and all at the same time are they?

I agree with all the point you have raised however when you do pay at the turnstiles you are allowed your say, and as appose to the well paid people who have made a signing for a few years with potential some who have turned up to the game and are mainly interested in the hear and now not long term

Of course I will.
Nowhere have I said that he is a poor player. The FACT is I have seen him play and have seen him clear and caught very easily.

Also Wigan do have the current England U18 scrum half (he was one of seven Wigan players in the team that beat the Aussies 2 - 0 last week).
And to take your second point, I agree, Wigan will have to release some of those young players to clubs who don't produce their own.



Oh and Wigan have signed another young Wigan based scrum half from a Superleague Club (should be announced soon)

It's good for the league as if the last crop of Wigan youngsters is anything to go by they will all be at other clubs and you will fill your back line with Aussies

Wigan had 16 players who played first team this season who came through the academy, including eight in the Grand Final.

The Wigan academy produced seven players in the team that beat the Aussies.

The Wigan U20 won their third Grand Final in a row.

Looks o.k. to me.

Do you want to talk about Leeds academy over the past three years?

I wouldn't call Disko a cast-off.

Most Leeds supporters who I know are quite sad to see him leave.

I never said it was bad, you do have a good youth system. just pointed out that those figures for good youth don't seem to get a massive chance in your back line. Even tomkins only got his cance because of a injured Aussies

I don't think they are. Most wish him well as he was a good servant to the club, but I can't say I know many people who think it's the end of the world. I for one am quite happy he has gone but wish him well

You are allowed your say of course and paying at the turnstiles has nothing to do with that, however don't lose sight of the fact that your (and others) opinion is based on hearsay, assumptions and pure finger-in-the-air guesswork, only the professionals, and there may only be a very few of those, know the truth.

ive seen him play for wigan and i must say i would have signed him

I was agreeing with your point!!! Most of us don't know the plans, etc for the future etc and only a few at the club probably do.

I've never heard of him, far less see him play.

So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish>

IA mode off.

But you agree that the rest are cast-offs?

Even more interesting.

Another myth perpetuated by the comic sky duo.
Sam Tomkins started more games for Wigan than Tim Smith in that 2009 season and that was before Smiths shoulder injury at HKR.

Fair enough I shall take your point on board as you watch them more than me. The main point I think is that with your current squad the majority of them probably won't get the chance in the first team, and will probably move onto other teams to get a chance