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| Why Should Disko start Rhinoms?
There can be no room for sentiment. Buderus is the better player they are both fully fit, it's a no brainer.
Before you all start, i am not slating Disko in anyway, i am stating my opinion. I know the southstander mafia have this thing about been loyal etc, but it's a squad game, disko will get plenty of game time throughout the year I am sure.
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| Quote ="efcrhino"1. Brent Webb
2. Scott Donald
3. Brett Delaney
4. Keith Senior
5. Ryan Hall
6. Danny McGuire
7. Rob Burrow
8. Kylie Leulaui
14. Matt Diskin
19. Luke Burgess
11. Jamie Jones-Buchanan
18. Carl Ablett
13. Kevin Sinfield
9. Danny Buderus
12. Ali Lauitiiti
15. Greg Eastwood
16. Ryan Bailey
Frightening bench.'"
IMO id go with Kirke instead of Bailey i think he gives us more go forward
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| Quote ="AL Rhino"Why Should Disko start Rhinoms?
There can be no room for sentiment. Buderus is the better player they are both fully fit, it's a no brainer.
Before you all start, i am not slating Disko in anyway, i am stating my opinion. I know the southstander mafia have this thing about been loyal etc, but it's a squad game, disko will get plenty of game time throughout the year I am sure.'"
Given that he finished last season as the form 9 in the comp and plus the fact having him and Buderus in the 17 works better imo when Disko starts as was shown during the Bulls match.
Oh and also seeing as Buderus hasn't played since Wigan away how does he warrant a starting spot???
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| i wouldn't have bailey in the 17, i would prefer kirke and ablett over him
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| Quote ="BigM"Ali wont start IMO
my 17 would be
1 Brent Webb
2 Scott Donald
3 Brett Delaney
4 Keith Senior
5 Ryan Hall
6 Danny McGuire
7 Rob Burrow
8 Kylie Leuluai
9 Danny Buderus
19 Luke Burgess
11 Jamie Jones Buchanan
18 Carl Ablett
13 Kevin Sinfield
12 Ali Lauiititi
14 Matt Diskin
15 Greg Eastwood
17 Ian Kirke'"
There aren't any props on that bench (Kirke at a push, but you need two, and Eastwood is *not* best used as a rotation prop) . Bailey for Diskin at least.
Seriously, I'm a fan of Matt Diskin, but he's a complete waste of a bench spot when Buderus is fit.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"There aren't any props on that bench (Kirke at a push, but you need two, and Eastwood is *not* best used as a rotation prop) . Bailey for Diskin at least.
Seriously, I'm a fan of Matt Diskin, but he's a complete waste of a bench spot when Buderus is fit.'"
kirke has played as an interchange prop plenty of times for leeds. eastwood also played pretty much all of last season as a prop for the doggies in the nrl
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| Quote ="BigRob"I'm not worried about the backs,
Full back - covered by Jones Bishop
Wing - covered by Jones Bishop and Watkins
Centre - covered by Watkins, Coady and Ablett
Stand off - covered by Sinfield and Webb
Scrum Half - covered by McGuire and McShane
This is the strongest squad I've seen at Leeds for a long time. Unless we get 3 or 4 injuries in one position (which would be freakish) we'll be fine'"
Jones Bishop is on loan at quins with no recall clause (as was pointed out to me the other day)
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| could be wrong but i'm sure i read somewhere there was a 24 hour recall clause.
could be my memory playing tricks though ...................................
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| Quote ="tad rhino"could be wrong but i'm sure i read somewhere there was a 24 hour recall clause.
could be my memory playing tricks though ...................................'"
I thought the same thing mate.
If it's not the case then we have Donald,Watkins and young Tom Bush who can cover there.
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Quote ="tad rhino"could be wrong but i'm sure i read somewhere there was a 24 hour recall clause.
could be my memory playing tricks though ...................................'"
I thought the same thing too, and for once in my life my memory has been proved correct!
www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/6 ... dcats.html
6th Paragraph Quote "Ben Jones-Bishop will hopefully force his way into the first team at Harlequins and we're looking for Dane Manning to do likewise at Featherstone. But it's nice to know we've got them there and we're able to recall them if we like." '"
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Quote ="tad rhino"could be wrong but i'm sure i read somewhere there was a 24 hour recall clause.
could be my memory playing tricks though ...................................'"
I thought the same thing too, and for once in my life my memory has been proved correct!
www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/6 ... dcats.html
6th Paragraph Quote "Ben Jones-Bishop will hopefully force his way into the first team at Harlequins and we're looking for Dane Manning to do likewise at Featherstone. But it's nice to know we've got them there and we're able to recall them if we like." '"
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"Jones Bishop is on loan at quins with no recall clause (as was pointed out to me the other day)'"
But not confirmed. Nobody could give a definate on that one.
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| From what I heard last night, don't be surprised to see Watkins at FB on friday.
Bedsy, Ablett and Bailey probably starting - bench of Eastwood, Diskin, Kirke and Ali.
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| Quote ="SouthStanderDave"From what I heard last night, don't be surprised to see Watkins at FB on friday.
Bedsy, Ablett and Bailey probably starting - bench of Eastwood, Diskin, Kirke and Ali.'"
I will be amazed if Bailey starts that match on Friday. In truth I will be shocked if he makes the bench.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I will be amazed if Bailey starts that match on Friday. In truth I will be shocked if he makes the bench.'"
Why?
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Why?'"
Not played since GF last year. True, neither as Senior, but Senior is important with a lack of competion, where Bailey is not and with competition.
But more importantly, every time he is due to play he goes down with an injury and fails the fitness test, that is why I said I would be amazed.
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| Quote ="BigRob"I'm not worried about the backs,
Full back - covered by Jones Bishop
Wing - covered by Jones Bishop and Watkins
Centre - covered by Watkins, Coady and Ablett
Stand off - covered by Sinfield and Webb
Scrum Half - covered by McGuire and McShane
This is the strongest squad I've seen at Leeds for a long time. Unless we get 3 or 4 injuries in one position (which would be freakish) we'll be fine'"
Ok. Lets just say for example we have 3 injuries at the same time. Burrow, Webb and Hall.
In this situation which backs would you play? And who would we have on the bench.
Don't get me wrong I agree we have a great squad with some top quality forwadrs but I just think with a couple of injuries we may be abit thin on numbers and could do with a couple more utility backs.
IMO I think we are abit short in the backs.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Not played since GF last year. True, neither as Senior, but Senior is important with a lack of competion, where Bailey is not and with competition.
But more importantly, [uevery time he is due to play [/uhe goes down with an injury and fails the fitness test, that is why I said I would be amazed.'"
So no real basis then for your comment?
In your own posting above you wrote that he played in the GF, so he does play in games that he's selected for, 19 in all last season.
I thought you must know something I didn't, which wouldn't surprise me, but in fact it would appear to be merely speculation.
Nothing wrong with that as long as we know that's what it is.
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| Quote ="Rich Rhino"Ok. Lets just say for example we have 3 injuries at the same time. Burrow, Webb and Hall.
In this situation which backs would you play? And who would we have on the bench.
Don't get me wrong I agree we have a great squad with some top quality forwadrs but I just think with a couple of injuries we may be abit thin on numbers and could do with a couple more utility backs.
IMO I think we are abit short in the backs.'"
With Burrow out it's Mcguire at 7 Sinfield at 6 (or mcshane in at 7).
With Webb out Either Watkins plays there or Donald or Bush.
With Hall Missing that gives a chance to either Coady or Bush.
We also have recall option on Bjb.
There's plenty of versatility within the squad to cover these positions barring a complete nightmare injury list.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"With Burrow out it's Mcguire at 7 Sinfield at 6 (or mcshane in at 7).
With Webb out Either Watkins plays there or Donald or Bush.
With Hall Missing that gives a chance to either Coady or Bush.
We also have recall option on Bjb.
There's plenty of versatility within the squad to cover these positions barring a complete nightmare injury list.'"
Or even Chisholm, the fastest man in Superleague.
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| Quote ="Rich Rhino"Ok. Lets just say for example we have 3 injuries at the same time. Burrow, Webb and Hall.
In this situation which backs would you play? And who would we have on the bench.
Don't get me wrong I agree we have a great squad with some top quality forwadrs but I just think with a couple of injuries we may be abit thin on numbers and could do with a couple more utility backs.
IMO I think we are abit short in the backs.'"
bjb back from loan to cover webb, watkins on the wing for hall, for burrow mcguire to scrum half sini to six, ablett to 13 and take your pick from our vast pool of forwards for the one backrow and bench spots
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Or even Chisholm, the fastest man in Superleague.'"
Yep i'd forgotten about young Jamal!
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Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"I know it's early but this is how it stands ATM.
(Names in Red are players who play more than one position)
Wingers:
Scott Donald
Ryan Hall
=redKallum Watkins
Mike Coady
centres:
Brett Delaney
=redKeith Senior
Kallum Watkins
Mike Coady
=redCarl Ablett
=redGreg Eastwood
Full Backs:
=redBrent Webb
Scott Donald
Mike Coady
Kallum Watkins
Half Backs:
Rob Burrow
Danny McGuire
=redKevin Sinfield
=redPaul McShane
Brent Webb
Props:
Jamie Peacock
Kylie Leuluai
Luke Burgess
Ryan Bailey
Luke Ambler
Kyle Amor
=redJay Pitts
Ian Kirke
=redJamie Jones Buchanan
=redGreg Eastwood
Hookers:
Danny Buderus
Matt Diskin
=redPaul Mcshane
Jamie Jones Buchanan
=redKevin Sinfield
Second Rowers:
Ali Lauitiiti
=redGreg Eastwood
Ian Kirke
=redJamie Jones Buchanan
Carl Ablett
=redKeith Senior
Jay Pitts
Loose Forwards:
=redKevin Sinfield
Carl Ablett
=redAli Lauitiiti
=redJamie Jones Buchanan
=redGreg Eastwood
Jay Pitts'"
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=423300
Possibly add Jamel Chisolm, Tom Bush, Chris Clarkson, Liam Hood to this.
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Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"I know it's early but this is how it stands ATM.
(Names in Red are players who play more than one position)
Wingers:
Scott Donald
Ryan Hall
=redKallum Watkins
Mike Coady
centres:
Brett Delaney
=redKeith Senior
Kallum Watkins
Mike Coady
=redCarl Ablett
=redGreg Eastwood
Full Backs:
=redBrent Webb
Scott Donald
Mike Coady
Kallum Watkins
Half Backs:
Rob Burrow
Danny McGuire
=redKevin Sinfield
=redPaul McShane
Brent Webb
Props:
Jamie Peacock
Kylie Leuluai
Luke Burgess
Ryan Bailey
Luke Ambler
Kyle Amor
=redJay Pitts
Ian Kirke
=redJamie Jones Buchanan
=redGreg Eastwood
Hookers:
Danny Buderus
Matt Diskin
=redPaul Mcshane
Jamie Jones Buchanan
=redKevin Sinfield
Second Rowers:
Ali Lauitiiti
=redGreg Eastwood
Ian Kirke
=redJamie Jones Buchanan
Carl Ablett
=redKeith Senior
Jay Pitts
Loose Forwards:
=redKevin Sinfield
Carl Ablett
=redAli Lauitiiti
=redJamie Jones Buchanan
=redGreg Eastwood
Jay Pitts'"
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=423300
Possibly add Jamel Chisolm, Tom Bush, Chris Clarkson, Liam Hood to this.
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Possibly add Jamel Chisolm, Tom Bush, Chris Clarkson, Liam Hood to this.'"
Stop please, you're getting me excited
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I like your confidence kiddo but I guess we will have to wait and see. TBH I'm suprised I'm the only one who thinks like this.
I just think compared to our forwards we have a good starting team but no depth. If we get a couple of injuries I think we will lack quality and maybe struggle to score tries.
In our forwards we have plenty of depth, whereas the backs it will just have to be youngsters coming through (which by the way I think is good and we have done it for many a year. But I think with a couple of injuries we may have to rely on them in stead of them breaking into the team)
Just my opinion and I like I said we will just have to wait and see what happens.
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