Quote ="Adeybull"Hmm.
I see you did not choose to quote what I said shortly after (referring to someone making the same point - i.e. was it aimed at Leeds fans?):
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I noted the significant back track but it it didn't alter the huge innaccuracies in your originsl post which goes to the root of this issue, people making a massive assumption
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Anyone reading the report must be given the clear impression that it was Leeds fans he was aiming his comments at. That means:
1 - He WAS, and the hack knew that
2 - He WAS, but the hack only surmised that
3 - he was NOT, and the hack wrongly surmised that he was. And in which case, the balloon should already have gone up but if not must surely do soon?'"
These latest set of assumptions and impressions still don't amount to "scathing attack on Leeds fans" and "clearly sure that Leeds fans were primarily to blame".
I see you still haven't had the good grace to withdraw your complete falsehoods.
Quote far more than from any other club, even from Stains'"
Again, is this just a flight of fancy on your pat or based upon any evidence whatsoever? You seriously think he draws more ire from Leeds fans than Saints fans? Yeah, right.
Quote it is not difficult to see how 2 or 3 could arise, is it?'"
I'm not making assumptions or jumping to conclusions. You are. I also don't see a "scathing attack on Leeds fans" or "clearly sure that Leeds fans were primarily to blame" in your numerical list.
Quote I suspect JP will come out and "clarify" his comments, saying he was not singling out Leeds fans - either of his own volition, or because GH has told him to. '"
Suspicions added to assumptions now.
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Until then, I (and pretty well every other reader outside of Leeds) can only read into the report what the hack clearly intended. "England captain Jamie Peacock has launched a furious attack aimed at fans of his own Leeds club".'"
Speaking for everyone else now are we?
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If there is falsehood, it is not initiated by me.'"
The falsehoods have come from your interpretations, suspicions and assumptions.
Quote I merely comment on what I have read.'"
You haave done more than commented. You have interpreted it, wrongly.
Quote I'm afraid that IMO most of this thread comes across more as seeking to justify WHY the player was booed, along the lines of "it was not just Leeds fans", rather than debating whether it was right that he was. '"
I honestly couldn't care less whether he was booed. You and others were laying the blame at the door of leeds fans when neither you, or peacock for that matter, are in a position to know that. Let me remind you, it wasn't a Leeds game. I, along with mny others, didn't attend. The crowds was made up of fans from many clubs, This shouldn't be hard to understand.
Quote And the comments about whether JP should have been in the side, and therefore in a position to make the comments, relate to a separate issue (and one I have more sympathy with). But on Friday night, rightly or wrongly, he was representing his country and so was entitled to and indeed expected to speak in that capacity. Are you seriously suggesting he should not and was not? His comments were IMO ill-judged, as they detracted big-time from the game, but it would seem he was speaking from the heart nevertheless?'"
He should have kept his mouth shut. I'd hope that the captain of an international team that had just lost to a bunch of past it collectives should have more important things to worry about,
Quote Tbh, I have grown so disillusioned with the international game that I find it hard to get worked up about whether what happened was right or not. I believe it was not, and did the international game no favours, but realistically we will never catch up with the antipodeans anyway - they have far more money to spend and the game is much bigger over there - so does it matter in the wider scheme of things? Maybe not. Does it play into the hands of those who would prefer to see the back of the internationals? Probably. Still does not make it right though IMO'"
Like I say, I don't care if it was right or wrong. I care about people typing wildly innacurate and baseless accusations in a public forum.
But I can understand why you want to swerve that issue.