We were just not good enough, at times we competed well, but other times we were poor. However we are seeing some kind of improvement. Kendall the ref as usual had a shocker for both teams, how he gets games is unbeleivable, yet not using the video ref on a few occasions was poor. Short of a half back, a quality half back would get us moving forward especially in game management and at the end of plays etc. Its time to make concrete offers of £200k for both Hastings and Trueman.
On thing I did note last night sitting behind the Cas dug out, when their forwards left the pitch for a rest they were well spent, you could see they had done a full shift and was equally ready to return when called upon, this is what I want our forwards to be like. Their back row last night was good. I just wish we had the same commitment and quality

Out of interest which calls did he get wrong that he should have gone to the video ref for? I found it quite refreshing he backed himself and gave them on field and I thought he got them right? On a side note do your fans boo at everything? The JSL try, what was wrong with that one as the whole stadium seemed to boo when it was shown back?

Why don't we all move to Bondi, then we can watch a commited team with heart and belief. Oh and I forgot wingers.

Bondi is a dump

I tend to agree, I was only talking about the rugby though.

Rather be in Blackpool.

Summer Bash here we come.

Yes wasn`t really sure why the fans booed as it clearly shows the ball was grounded.
Probably the only contentious try was when McMeeken I think collided with Newman in the air resulting in him dropping it.
I`ve seen them disallowed before and on the other side of the coin seen them given.
If the fans wanted to boo it should have been at the amount of times the ball was passed forward by McShane but I would not be surprised to read we did the same.

Lolohea in a boot, lower body injury won't be good for his tub.

The penalty and yellow for Watkins was wrong. Eden looked like he needed a neck brace and stretcher and then a minute later from the penalty, he makes a miraculous recovery and scores. They should not have been given the penalty to have that field position.

Hips went beyond the horizontal, if only briefly. It was the correct decision and we've seen yellow cards given for similar dangerous tackles during the season so the consistency is there as well.
I imagine Eden stayed down for a bit because it probably hurt. The severity of an injury (or lack of) should have no bearing on the punishment. The [ipotential[/i was there to injure the player.

No they didn't ,Eden kicks his legs up before Watkins puts him on his back not even a penalty.

Go and watch it again, Watkins puts his hand under Eden's leg and raises it.

Eden could have landed on his head if he didn't correct himself before he hits the floor. Maybe he should have landed on his head and Watkins then gets a red.

In one sentence, sums up how blinkered some people are, when it's their team the decision goes against.
It was the correct decision, and he got most of them right last night, with the exception of the penalty that gave Leeds 2 points at the start and he missed Watkins' knock on, but then that was only obvious after TV replays.

Watkins decision was marginal, but correct.

The crowd booed because they probably saw the replay, saw he didn't get the ball down straight away and turned to shoot at the reg whilst the video shows him grounding at the third attempt

In the modern game it was a penalty and a card and the ref was correct. Eden was put in a dangerous position. It wasnt malicious in any way but that's how the sport is now.

I've no idea why the crowd was going crazy about the try. It was clearly a try.

Watched it back, thought Ava, Peteru, Oledski went pretty well in the pack, really like Avas defence, he was known as a good defender in the NRL and its clear to see why imo.

Newman and Handley also very good with no decent ball.

In honesty though, even if the other 15 players play well, your going to struggle to win a game when you'v got 2 players as bad as Myler and Watkins were, especially when theyr your experienced half and your captain. They were beyond shocking, thats all im going to say on Watkins because we all know the probable reasons. Myler though, its got to be one of the worst halfback performances iv ever seen, absolute garbage, 6 missed tackles to pad his already league leading stats, horrendous kicking game which gave them 7 tackle sets time and again, no structure, control, intelligence whatsoever...Complete and utter disgrace, He'd be the first one out the door for me. Our pack gets its share of criticism and the saying goes a half cant play behind a beaten pack, but it works both ways. A pack can look a lot better if theyr working off a couple of repeat attacking sets rather than defending multiple 7 tackle sets, the difference there is staggering, id be suprised if we'r not bottom of the league in repeat sets gained, good halfs get you them, Myler does the opposite.

Yeah well said. Hes looked ok at times myler but he looks shot to pieces now. If we are to avoid relegation he needs to step up his game big time or replace him this season.

Not blinkered at all Watkins squared him up and tackled him Eden clearly kicks his legs out and lands fine no pile driver no dump tackle at all.

You can ignore defence if it's JJB we'discussing



Singleton works hard in defence, but he doesn't hit very hard (unless it's a shoulder charge, and he never wins a collusion with or without the ball. He's not progressed since making his debut, and he seems to be losing power and physicality instead of adding it. I was always willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because I assumed he would develop and grow into a big, athletic prop, but he looks like he's never been in a weight room!

Agreed. Sky commentary also agreed

I agree with a lot of that.

Ava looks like a good un, he very rarely (if at all ) misses a tackle and runs in very strong, our pack is not as big as an issue as our halves.

I really would give McLelland some proper game tomr from now on

If it had been Eden on Watkins and no action had been taken, you Whinos fans would have been apoplectic, judging by you're reaction when a perfectly good try was scored against you.

Eden was prob the correct call. Hips only just above the horizontal. Hopefully Watkins cops a 1 match ban to force us to drop him for magic. Anyone else plays like that and they would be dropped. Can't belive he's still captain

Got to love these one eyed obsessed inbreds not only are they the Greatest RL TEAM in the World (yet still won F#'All) they can also see into events that never happened!!