When I said "Maybe it needs to be said" it was in response to the above highlighted.

Apologies for confusion. Wasn't referring to attributed comments to SW about McGuire.

By my reckoning, this century Saints have won the most trophies with 12, Leeds with 8.
The trophies I've counted are the LL Shield, C Cup and GF x 13 seasons.

I was reffering to 6 SL wins since 2004 which is the trophy every club aspires to win now above all others.6 SL wins since 2004,5 in 6 seasons must take some beating.If you are going by the CC and the LLS,please don't leave out the WCC

How often are you going to shift the goalposts in order to claim the Rhinos as the greatest and standout SL team ever? From just the start of this century? Since the start of 2004?


No problem.

[uFull SL Era[/u
St Helens 18 trophies
Leeds 12 trophies

[uThis Century Era[/u
St Helens 14 trophies
Leeds 8 trophies

[uFrom 2004 era[/u
St Helens 10 trophies
Leeds 11 trophies

WOW!
Leeds Rhinos really are the best ever!
Well done.
You finally got there.
No, really.

How have Leeds won only 8 trophies since 2000, and 11 trophies since 2004?

You've spoilt my fun now.

GOOD BYE CRANK

I'd be generous and give Saints 19. They didn't win a hubcap or anything at all for their 2002 League Leaders campaign but just because their wasn't a title or trophy doesn't mean it shouldn't be counted.

Clearly then Leeds aren't technically the most successful team in the SL era but their 6 in 9 (and 5 in 6) run of wins in the Grand Final has arguably made them the most significant team of the SL era. And I'm not one of those to dismiss the CC, I would've loved for Leeds to have won a few, but at the same time it clearly isn't the biggest prize on offer.....that is the GF easily and Leeds have gone on a streak that may not be beaten for a very long time, if at all.

Also a key part of the story is still to be written with what happens in the future and how long will they keep going and if when the 'core' is gone how will the club fair? Whilst nothing will take away the likes of 3 GF's in 5 years for Bradford (also a great run of success) that the club fell from grace so quickly does dampen successes like those slightly when you look back now.

So how many trophies do you Leeds fans think you have won in the SL era, or this century for that matter?

They've won the most significant and standout ones during each and every era.

In the Super League Era, I count the total number of major trophies (Super League Champions (Pre-98 and GF winners), League Leaders (03-Present), Premiership, Challenge Cup, World Club Challenge.

St Helens - 18
Leeds - 12
Bradford - 10
Wigan - 8

For anyone who wants to debate the whole Premiership being counted as a major trophy, IMO it's equivalent with the league leaders' shield. Also, including League Leaders from 98-2002 has no effect on the rankings, as Wigan & Bradford each topped the table twice and St Helens did once in that period.

In terms of overall trophies, Bradford & Wigan are both closer to you than you are to St Helens.

I LOVE Wigan

All I am saying is Leeds record in SL wins this century must have some significance

Enjoy it while you can...Sport is cyclical...

We will and we are.Growing up through the Wigan dominance and watching us win sod all for two decades i was over the moon to see us get one.We have been spoilt for a long time now

Agreed. Cannot see why people (from all clubs) are obsessed with peeing contests about who has won more. As above from watching some dire times over the last few decades I am enjoying what we have achieved and not really bothered about how much more or less we have won.

Sport is cyclical to an exstent but hopefully when we do fall it's not too far down as Bradford did

Oh i do..




Following Wigan has been fascinating the last 10 years.... Lets hope your fans stick by you if you do slip in the same way Wigan fans have stood by Wigan... You know Wigan fans? The ones who leave early... But we do turn up...

Cut and pasted from the Guardian comments on the Exiles game:

"I'm glad its out the way so now Sky Sports can get back to their primary function of covering Leeds games. It must have killed them to broadcast a game where the Rhinos weren't playing......

So, on to Monday Night football. I wonder who Sky have got on that.

Well knock me down with a feather, its Leeds Rhinos for a change.
Some original scheduling is that."

"Wigan did win the league last year. Had the best attack and best defence, much in the same way this year, top of the league, again best defence best attack. Also add into that they averaged the highest attendances last year and the fact that they probably have the biggest following nationwide, and are arguably the biggest club in England with the biggest history.

Oh yeah also add into that they have the the 1 superstar of the game on these shores, the best player this country has ever produced, especially of this generation in Sam Tomkins. Also add to that, to the general public they play the slickest and best brand of Rugby to watch. And yeah you're right it makes perfect sense to have had the Rhinos on SKY 3X more than Wigan.

If the guy who is in charge of this in SKY isn't a Rhinos fan then I'll eat my hat. It's a joke!"

#wiganmeltdown

Craig... Was an article, or the comments?.... If it was some wigan fan he needs his bumps feeling.. Leeds are current champions, why would they not be on?

Comments.

Also there are no other league games this week, which seems to have passed him by.

Hell yeah. I know that this successful period is not only unprecedented but wont last that long.

It's a bit like being on holiday, you know it's not forever so you enjoy it as much as you can while you're in the sunshine.

Just stumbled across this beauty of a thread.

Always nice to have 18 pages dedicated to your club on another clubs board.

This guy has answered his own questions; why would SKY want to put on matches that involve one sided drubbings (which is part of the reason why Mr Tomkins has a platform to shine), when they're after competitive down-to-the-wire nail biters? I'm afraid that Wiggin will have to play at the same standard as us mere mortals to get more air-time

We could go over to your board and post our comments, but we know how tetchy your mods are. We saw what happened when Leeds beat you in both semi finals last year

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