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| Quote ="Old Feller"Without that connection Caddick would not have come on board & without his money where would the Rhinos be now.
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Didn't Caddick have ownership of Leeds RL before he took over the Union operation?
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| Quote ="tvoc"Didn't Caddick have ownership of Leeds RL before he took over the Union operation?'"
That's my recollection.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"That's my recollection.'"
Maybe but his main interest was always RU & his (& GH's) longterm objective was IMO to bring both operations together under one umbrella organisation. For the mutual benefit of both.
Synergy, 2+2 = 5
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| Caddick is a businessman first and a sport benefactor second.
Without Gary Hetherington I would question whether Caddick would have come on board at all but the fact(?) remains he invested first in the League set up at Headingley, so the notion that Caddick wouldn't be here but for the Union club appears misguided.
I thought he'd relinquished his majority interest in them anyway when they re-branded as Carnegie?
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| Quote ="tvoc"Didn't Caddick have ownership of Leeds RL before he took over the Union operation?'" Correct.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Caddick is a businessman first and a sport benefactor second.
Without Gary Hetherington I would question whether Caddick would have come on board at all but the fact(?) remains he invested first in the League set up at Headingley, so the notion that Caddick wouldn't be here but for the Union club appears misguided.
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You don't think there may have been a business plan to involve a Union team of some description, manufactured or bought-out, in the same stylee and at the same time as whats-is-face of Metro Centre fame was doing in Newcastle ?
Or did it just happen by a nice coincidence ?
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"Lets not forget the money the club brings to us and Headingley area'"
Can you or someone else expand on that please?
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| Good luck to them. I just don't have a problem with Union.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"You don't think there may have been a business plan to involve a Union team of some description, manufactured or bought-out, in the same stylee and at the same time as whats-is-face of Metro Centre fame was doing in Newcastle ?
Or did it just happen by a nice coincidence ?'"
A ground share with a Union club was first envisaged by Alf Davies pre Super League so it'd be wrong to say that Caddick was oblivious to the possibility.
But he didn't come to Headingley with a Union club already there or with one under his grace (which is what was implied earlier) that came along much later when the original Leeds RU club directors failed to make an impact at Headingley.
Did Caddick oust them or did he agree to the takeover which then became Leeds Rugby? Did he set out to achieve it or was it an happy/unhappy coincidence?
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"You don't think there may have been a business plan to involve a Union team of some description, manufactured or bought-out, in the same stylee and at the same time as whats-is-face of Metro Centre fame was doing in Newcastle ?
Or did it just happen by a nice coincidence ?'" Is it being suggested that Caddick took on the liabilities of a debt riddled RL purely so he could take over a RU club?
Why wouldn't he just buy out the RU club?
His motivation in coming to Leeds CF&A Ltd had nothing to do with Union. It quickly became part of his business plan and then it eventually went out of it.
If the Union side bring so many benefits why did Caddick rid us of it to Carnegie?
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| Like DHM, I don't have a problem with the Union version of our game, although it can be a bore fest at times.
Caddick is a very astute business man, and his primary interest was in the Headingley site as a whole. I'm pretty sure his original business plan encompassed both Rugby Codes and the Yorkshire Cricket side of the ground.
It's been a nice little earner for him, and without his input, I suspect we would have been deep in the mire.
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| Two tries in 3 games. Exciting times
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| Given that in terms of where carnegie are expected to finish in their league, it might be more relevant to compare their attendances with those of, say, Salford. In that context 6k is reasonable.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"Good luck to them. I just don't have a problem with Union.'"
I too wish them all the best.
It benefits the whole city if all its sporting clubs are successful - RL,RU, Football and Cricket. That's the reason I find it hard to comprehend the delight some folk on here take in the failure of any of them.
By all means don't go along to watch and/or support them financially but don't knock them or those who do go along.
I had a freebie to go to watch the Tykes yesterday (by virtue of my YCCC membership) but my sunny back garden held more attractions.
The scoreline vindicated my decision.
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| the ru have been trying to destroy RL for almost 115 years.
thats the problem i have with them
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| I have met a number of people, or overheard a number, who have been to Carnegie, all have been on freebies. I have no problem with it but wonder what the attendance would be without them. I work with a bloke who works for England Rugby (sic), he went the first game this year, says he's never going again it was so bad.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"the ru have been trying to destroy RL for almost 115 years.
thats the problem i have with them'"
I know all that but we all need to move on from that.
I guess you don't buy Scottish, French, Irish, German, Italian, Japanese goods and products, nor visit them as holiday destinations, since they have all been at war with us and tried to destroy the nation at various times over the past centuries.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"I know all that but we all need to move on from that.
I guess you don't buy Scottish, French, Irish, German, Italian, Japanese goods and products, nor visit them as holiday destinations, since they have all been at war with us and tried to destroy the nation at various times over the past centuries.'"
RU are still trying to close us down
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| I never really get Rugby Union, it just seems like an excuse for sweaty grown men (some overweight and with access Vaseline) to climb on top of each other whilst raking each others backs and other limbs in a passion filled frenzy whilst making sure the one at the bottom releases.
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"I never really get Rugby Union, it just seems like an excuse for sweaty grown men (some overweight and with access Vaseline) to climb on top of each other whilst raking each others backs and other limbs in a passion filled frenzy whilst making sure the one at the bottom releases.'"
I never got it, but after reading this post I'm going to start playing it.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"RU are still trying to close us down'"
Are they really? Or are they just competing in the same market place?
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Are they really? Or are they just competing in the same market place?'"
if thats the case why give them a selling pitch in our hq
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"if thats the case why give them a selling pitch in our hq'"
Are you seriously concerned that, at the local level in Leeds, the RU club can harm our market share?
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"Like DHM, I don't have a problem with the Union version of our game, although it can be a bore fest at times.
Caddick is a very astute business man, and his primary interest was in the Headingley site as a whole. I'm pretty sure his original business plan encompassed both Rugby Codes and the Yorkshire Cricket side of the ground.
It's been a nice little earner for him, and without his input, I suspect we would have been deep in the mire.'"
That too is my impression, it doesn't fit with the agenda's of some, but there you are.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"RU are still trying to close us down'"
In what specific way ?
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