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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Lilley has been terrific in the NZ game. I'd have no hesitation to see him start a few games in the halves next season.'"
Yes he was outstanding. Looks ready to step up already.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Yes he was outstanding. Looks ready to step up already.'"
Steady. He was good last night and looked competent at hooker a few weeks back but week in week out sl is too early yet.
Bed him in slowly if injuries permit. Him and Sutcliffe could be out half backs for 10-15 years if we get the treatment of them right over the next couple of years.
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| Quote ="Fallon"Steady. He was good last night and looked competent at hooker a few weeks back but week in week out sl is too early yet.
Bed him in slowly if injuries permit. Him and Sutcliffe could be out half backs for 10-15 years if we get the treatment of them right over the next couple of years.'"
Not saying he should be first choice or playing week in week out. But he is ready for around 10-12 games and more if injuries to main halfs.
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| He's not strong enough in the middle defensively, and he doesn't try and make up for his lack of size with better technique. He can't be a first choice hooker for any SL side unless he improves his defense.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Lilley has been terrific in the NZ game. I'd have no hesitation to see him start a few games in the halves next season.'"
He's very vocal and doesn't shy away from wanting his hands on the ball, something that Sutcliffe still struggles with IMO. The little half break and offload for Moon's second was a nice touch.
There's plenty to work with, and I'd like to see him playing somewhere in the Championship on dual reg next year or on a loan with a recall option
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"He's very vocal and doesn't shy away from wanting his hands on the ball, something that Sutcliffe still struggles with IMO. The little half break and offload for Moon's second was a nice touch.
There's plenty to work with, and I'd like to see him playing somewhere in the Championship on dual reg next year or on a loan with a recall option'"
Dual reg for a club like Fev would be ideal for Lilley and Golding, but hopefully both will get a decent amount of first team action for Leeds too, though in Golding's case if Hardaker doesn't get injured that would most likely be on the wing.
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| There's a good case for sending Golding and Lilley out on season-long loans to somewhere like Bradford or Wakefield where they'd get first team action on a regular basis. OTOH, you want them available at LS6 in case we pick up an injury and need them.
In any case, I think those writing us off for next year after losing Kylie, JP & Kev are well wide of the mark. Would back us to pick up at least one trophy next year on top of the WCC.
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| I'd much rather see Lilley go on loan and be starting games at a decent level at scrum half, rather than see him getting the odd game as an interchange hooker. Scrum half is a specialist position and he's only ever going to improve by playing games there. Playing him at DH at this stage would be a backward step for his long term development.
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| Been speaking to a friend today who is in the team. He told me we have definitely been in for big Sam. Wouldn't say anything else.
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| Agree with sending younger ones on loan to championship. Not sure how I forgot Sutcliffe from earlier list. Be interesting to see if he gets the goal kicking job next year. Achurch did not look very fit last night but if he is going am surprised he played and risked another serious injury. If he is on near £100k he needs a big injury free season next time.
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| I can't do the link ,but there is another Australian article about Sam Burgess in negotiations to return to League and Leeds have been mentioned
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| Martyn Sadler has tweeted about Leeds:
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RT by the Rhinos too...
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| My guess would be that Sam will come to Leeds for 1 season until Souths sort out their cap space and then he will return here. I can see GH having a chat with Russell Crowe to help him out given Crowe's admiration for Leeds.
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| Quote ="Fetlar"Martyn Sadler has tweeted about Leeds:
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RT by the Rhinos too...'"
I can see how the headline was designed to make people 'put 2 & 2 together' but I reckon he was talking about the staging of and attendance at the NZ game
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| He's off back to the Bunnies. Cut and dried.
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"He's off back to the Bunnies. Cut and dried.'"
Word is that Burgess does not like Madge, Luke leaving had as much to do with his dislike for Madge as wanting the go to NZ. It was an easy get out. Burgess may wait a season or 2 till Madge moves on perhaps taking the Storm job when Bellyache finishes up.
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| If he can get out of his Bath contract, you'll be seeing Sam Burgess in a Rhinos Shirt
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| Last weekend Bath played their Englsnd WC guys including Burgess on the bench. This weekend just gone he was missing from the squad altogether. Their line was he was being "rested" even though the other WC guys weren't. Apart from the Wales game he's hardly played any minutes to need a "rest"....sounds suspicious to me.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Last weekend Bath played their Englsnd WC guys including Burgess on the bench. This weekend just gone he was missing from the squad altogether. Their line was he was being "rested" even though the other WC guys weren't. Apart from the Wales game he's hardly played any minutes to need a "rest"....sounds suspicious to me.'"
There is something happening. Negotiations to bring him to Leeds. There are noises from within the club they are trying to make it happen in a big way, and it's not as crazy as some people might think.
If Leeds pull it off, I for one will be very happy.
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| I was looking forward to Clark pulling on a Leeds shirt, who apparently wanted to be at Leeds, I was quite happy when Westerman didn't happen but both were done deals. I would love Burgess at Leeds, but can't see it. The only thing that may make it happen is the coach/player dynamic at Souths and or lack of cap space with NRL pre season just around the corner. if we got him for 1 or 2 seasons that would be very special.
GH might be trying to sell him on the WCC and a stab at SL domestic honours.
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"I can see how the headline was designed to make people 'put 2 & 2 together' but I reckon he was talking about the staging of and attendance at the NZ game'"
I'm sure you're right. But it's Monday morning and I'm up for a bit of self-delusion
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| Quote ="Middleton_Loiner"There is something happening. Negotiations to bring him to Leeds. There are noises from within the club they are trying to make it happen in a big way, and it's not as crazy as some people might think.
If Leeds pull it off, I for one will be very happy.'"
It's not crazy. The main thing for it to happen of course is Sam wanting out, if this is the case then you could easily see him joining us for a year before a return to the NRL. As ever i will believe it when i see it confirmed but it would be great for the club and SL to have him here still in his prime, even for just the one year.
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| Don't see it happening tbh. Gonna be a major distraction if it does, mind.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Don't see it happening tbh. Gonna be a major distraction if it does, mind.'"
If Leeds were to sign Burgess then I think it will cause major distractions but these will all be in the dressing rooms of our main competitors. Burgess added to what is beginning to look a dominant pack would be awesome.
However I too doubt doubt it will happen because of contracts, transfer fee and the player wanting to prove he can make it in Union. But I do hope it happens.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"If Leeds were to sign Burgess then I think it will cause major distractions but these will all be in the dressing rooms of our main competitors. Burgess added to what is beginning to look a dominant pack would be awesome.
However I too doubt doubt it will happen because of contracts, transfer fee and the player wanting to prove he can make it in Union. But I do hope it happens.
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I think everyone hopes it happens. Not sure how much he has left to prove in union, given he's played in a world cup. He could stay put for another 4 years but are England, realistically, any more likely to win that one? But I agree, it all seems a bit messy to come together for a one-season deal. Does his mam still live in England? That might be a factor, I suppose.
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