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| We should have had a penalty after Danny's second try for Farrell's flip. In fact, the amount of flops by Wigan was ridiculous and not 1 penalty. So much was let go by Thaler last night that the pies have nothing to complain about. It was a game between a team playing rugby and a team intent on wrestling. The better team won for the good of the game.
Really hope there's been filming behind the scenes this year to make a documenatary. It would be a great advert for the club and sport as a whole
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| On my return home from Old Trafford last night and watched the entire Sky Sports production. I spent the first hour laughing my head off at Phil Clarke's wisdom.
After the game I think he mentioned that he thought Leeds were the best team of the last 40 years. Was I dreaming at this point?
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| He does mention something along those lines yes Fieldheadrhino.
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| Quote ="Fieldheadrhino"On my return home from Old Trafford last night and watched the entire Sky Sports production. I spent the first hour laughing my head off at Phil Clarke's wisdom.
After the game I think he mentioned that he thought Leeds were the best team of the last 40 years. Was I dreaming at this point?'"
His exact words were "arguably", so at some point he will almost certainly argue against that they're not.
Keep that door slightly open Phil.
Honestly, I don't think it was a particularly good game. There were some intense periods but there were a lot of unforced errors. Wigan were effectively shut down for long periods of the game and when Leeds scored on 63 minutes they crumbled. The last 15 minutes were probably hell if you were watching live but on replay Leeds killed the game stone dead and Wigan had no ideas and no gas left. Most of that last period was played 20 metres from the Wigan line.
If I were Wane I would have been wondering where all my leaders were hiding. Apart from giving Mags a trademark facial while he was on his back the Wigan skipper did a Leon Pryce. Only George Williams looked a threat.
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| ^^^^^ well put DHM, i can confirm the last 10 minutes was awful viewing in the stadium especially from my view of not being able to see the screen,so no clock.It seemed to go on forever! it was far from the best game seen at OT i agree but it had all the tension in the last 20 minutes and again we showed how to close it out. I thought we would go away in the second half with the 10 point lead but credit to Wigan they fought all the way and had they not gone for the 2 and played for the try i feel they could have done it,that was the gamechanger for me and all the momentum Wigan had built up at the start of the second period seemed to disappear.
Special thanks to Phil, truly inspirational speech after the Cas game seemed to be the catalyst for the great end to the season . please,feel free to write us of every year
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| Bet Danny McGuire enjoyed last night more than anyone. 'Up yours' with knobs on
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| Surely no-one really wants Clarke to vanish? He's an integral part of the pre-match whenever we're on TV and he does add, in some very minor way, to the pleasure of beating Wigan. And actually you know your team's pretty special if he pauses jizzing over them to hand out the odd, back-handed compliment.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Surely no-one really wants Clarke to vanish? He's an integral part of the pre-match whenever we're on TV and he does add, in some very minor way, to the pleasure of beating Wigan. And actually you know your team's pretty special if he pauses jizzing over them to hand out the odd, back-handed compliment.'"
Indeed.I think he should be given the freedom of the City now after inspiring us to the treble.
What would be hilarious would be if the Southstand sang his name and gave him some sort of thankyou chant on the way up to the gantry next time SKY are at Headingley.That would enrage him more than the usual heckling he gets i would think!
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| Next Sky game next year just put a banner across the north stand roof with his quote of him saying we won't win another game this season. Should have a great view of it from the Sky commentary box
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Next Sky game next year just put a banner across the north stand roof with his quote of him saying we won't win another game this season. Should have a great view of it from the Sky commentary box
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Or All do custom Signs similar to Wrestling Fans with his Quote on.
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| The man is so anti Leeds it is ridiculous. He manages to recover himself mostly and say something that even he can see is true, but in match comments when Leeds are playing are so biased. I know that Barrie and Stevo tend to be supportive of Leeds but their not biased. Clarke will see very decision that is marginal as needing to go against Leeds.
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| Clarke does favour wigan.
When he's commenting, if wigan are under the pump he'll turn it round on the other team ''every team has to deal with adversity and X team are only 8 points in front, the momentum will swing and I THINK wigan will post more points when that happens''.
But if roles are reversed he says something like ''Wigan are looking very good here Eddeh, even if the momentum swings I think they've taken too much juice out of X team......''
Basically whatever the situation, no matter what, he paints it in a positive light for wigan. Even if they are well beaten he'll paint it as a positive for the rest of the season. Of course he praises the opposition when they win but it's a constant stream of ''good situation for wigan'' which spews from his mouth, which you don't get from him for any other team.
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| Jon Wilkin has far more personal experience of bad days and crushing defeats at the hands of Leeds than Clarke, but he manages to park that when he's commenting on TV. Maybe if he's doing TV work after he's retired and Leeds play Saints he might struggle but let's wait and see.
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| Quote ="DHM"Jon Wilkin has far more personal experience of bad days and crushing defeats at the hands of Leeds than Clarke, but he manages to park that when he's commenting on TV. Maybe if he's doing TV work after he's retired and Leeds play Saints he might struggle but let's wait and see.'"
Have to agree with this. Given how much grief Leeds have given Wilkin during the course of his playing career (and how much of a w*nker I think he is on the pitch) I have to give the bloke a lot of respect for how he conducts himself in the role of TV pundit
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| Quote ="DHM"Jon Wilkin has far more personal experience of bad days and crushing defeats at the hands of Leeds than Clarke, but he manages to park that when he's commenting on TV. Maybe if he's doing TV work after he's retired and Leeds play Saints he might struggle but let's wait and see.'"
I like Wilkin as a pundit
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| Phil Clarke; "From every other part of the field Kevin Sinfield is a world class goal kicker, apart from here, 5 yards in from the right hand touch line".
Kevin Sinfield: kicks the goal.
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| Quote ="DHM"Phil Clarke; "From every other part of the field Kevin Sinfield is a world class goal kicker, apart from here, 5 yards in from the right hand touch line".
Kevin Sinfield: kicks the goal.'"
To be fair to Clarke on this one I know what he means as I've thought the same in that Sinfield usually nails it from bang on the touch line but a few metres in occasionally misses.
It was daft to say it when he did though because Sinfield doesn't miss 2 in that situation. One of Sinfields best attributes is obviously his mentality and you know that if he misses a kick he's going to nail the next one. And he did, straight down the middle.
Clarke is still a douche though.
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| Phil Clarke thought that he owned the rugby gods until Magsy shoved it up him big style on saturday
We wont win another game eh Phil?
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| Clarke's paid to offer opinions on things, which he does.
That it winds so many up is to an extent to his credit. It generates discussion and conversation about the game.
Unlike some on the Sky commentary (McDermott, O'Connor, Stevo, Hemmings) the coverage would be duller for his absence.
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| The thing is though Andy that it's not always opinion, there is far too much desperation in his voice for it to be opinion when he is saying things along the "that's a Leeds knock on", or "he's never got that down" etc. But it's the way he says things rather than what he says.
You can't tell me you honestly don't think he is bias against Leeds ? It's not a wind up, it's blatant, and makes him sound like a baby who has lost his rattle when he is almost crying, trying in any way he can to convince the others on the commentary team he is right, and the decision must go against Leeds.
One thing for sure is that he is in no way as vocal, nor as critical when it comes to any other club, in fact he is fairly dull when commentating on games that don't involve Leeds so I fail to see how all this should be to his credit, when as a summariser he should show nothing but impartiality which we all know he doesn't....even you.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Clarke's paid to offer opinions on things, which he does.
That it winds so many up is to an extent to his credit. It generates discussion and conversation about the game.
Unlike some on the Sky commentary (McDermott, O'Connor, Stevo, Hemmings) the coverage would be duller for his absence.'"
So he's Sky Sports equivalent of AP? I think it's ridiculous to suggest he's paid to wind up the viewers and subscribers.
He's paid to offer a degree of analysis and expertise along with opinion. He's supposed to offer more than an average Wigan fan from the terrace, given his background as a player. That he is unable to hide his obvious bias and is often so fundamentally wrong (Salford to win/Leeds didn't play well at Wembley etc) is not to the broadcasters credit at all. That his colleagues took such great delight in embarrassing him about his nonsense shows how much they think of him.
The only conversation he generates is what a biased fool he is. Do you think Sky and the game should be happy about that?
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| Quote ="G1"So he's Sky Sports equivalent of AP? I think it's ridiculous to suggest he's paid to wind up the viewers and subscribers.
He's paid to offer a degree of analysis and expertise along with opinion. He's supposed to offer more than an average Wigan fan from the terrace, given his background as a player. That he is unable to hide his obvious bias and is often so fundamentally wrong (Salford to win/Leeds didn't play well at Wembley etc) is not to the broadcasters credit at all. That his colleagues took such great delight in embarrassing him about his nonsense shows how much they think of him.
The only conversation he generates is what a biased fool he is. Do you think Sky and the game should be happy about that?'"
If he is doing that at Sky's bidding then he is prostituting himself and doing the game a great disservice and showing disrespect to RL fans .I think it's his way ,he can't change from being born and bred into that Wigan culture which is being discussed eslewhere
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| Quote ="G1"So he's Sky Sports equivalent of AP? I think it's ridiculous to suggest he's paid to wind up the viewers and subscribers.
He's paid to offer a degree of analysis and expertise along with opinion. He's supposed to offer more than an average Wigan fan from the terrace, given his background as a player. That he is unable to hide his obvious bias and is often so fundamentally wrong (Salford to win/Leeds didn't play well at Wembley etc) is not to the broadcasters credit at all. That his colleagues took such great delight in embarrassing him about his nonsense shows how much they think of him.
The only conversation he generates is what a biased fool he is. Do you think Sky and the game should be happy about that?'"
Totally agree.
He should be able to keep out the obvious dislike he has of Leeds from his analysis if not his predictions.
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| Quote ="Middleton_Loiner"Funny how Kevin Sinfield and Jamie Peacock say Macca is the best Coach they have ever played under and is the best in Super League. 8 or 9 out of 10 in most departments.
I think I'll take their opinion over yours any day of the week.'"
so would i but would you expect them to to say any different if they thought differently?
has kev ever said a wrong word , even guarded on the shambolically entertaining rugby am
anyways poss with evolution rather than revolution mc d has his medals for the table.
I'll always prob remember 99 for being 1st major trophy though john player had all same teams , and for prob seeing our first decent pack in years
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