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| Leeds v Cas:
Eddie "well I think it's over now"
Phil Clarke "what, Leeds' season?!"
Leeds v Cas:
Phil Clarke "I don't think Leeds will win another game this season"
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Phil Clarke "I think Wigan are a better team, play too much as a team, and are too fast and powerful for Leeds to handle. Wigan will win this and win comfortably"
2010 Grand Final Eliminator:
Phil Clarke "Perhaps the rugby Gods have punished him for his unsportsmanlike play" (on McGuire's injury)
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Leeds win at Hudds on the hooter to steal the LLS from the Pies, Leeds beat Saints to reach the GF, Leeds win the GF and Danny McGuire wins the HS Trophy.
Phil Clarke is an utter tool and I bet he's proper gutted tonight. And I'm glad. The rugby Gods have done their work on him there haven't they?
Well done Leeds, a fantastic achievement.
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| Never mind Phil,Salford might win it one year.
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| Just imagine how ed off the Leeds hating SOB is having to watch Leeds beat his beloved Wigan, its the glitter on the cherry on the icing on the cake, that is this perfect evening. Cheers Phil and thanks for writing us off.
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| Quote ="BuckleyStreetWire"Leeds v Cas:
Eddie "well I think it's over now"
Phil Clarke "what, Leeds' season?!"
Leeds v Cas:
Phil Clarke "I don't think Leeds will win another game this season"
Pre-Grand Final chat:
Phil Clarke "I think Wigan are a better team, play too much as a team, and are too fast and powerful for Leeds to handle. Wigan will win this and win comfortably"
2010 Grand Final Eliminator:
Phil Clarke "Perhaps the rugby Gods have punished him for his unsportsmanlike play" (on McGuire's injury)
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Leeds win at Hudds on the hooter to steal the LLS from the Pies, Leeds beat Saints to reach the GF, Leeds win the GF and Danny McGuire wins the HS Trophy.
Phil Clarke is an utter tool and I bet he's proper gutted tonight. And I'm glad. The rugby Gods have done their work on him there haven't they?
Well done Leeds, a fantastic achievement.'"
.... Clarke should be given the freedom of the city of Leeds for his truly "inspirational" words ....bet he is absolutely gutted
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| We are going on about the blatant knock-on to Leeds's second try. Déjà vu after what happened at Leeds when 2 of your tries should have been disallowed for blatant knock-ons - which were referred to the video ref! Be honest, you would have all been very annoyed if such an incident had resulted in a Wigan try. Seems like you have had the benefit of the doubt (not that there was much doubt - it was a definite knock-on) yet again from the VR!
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| Quote ="Fames"We are going on about the blatant knock-on to Leeds's second try. Déjà vu after what happened at Leeds when 2 of your tries should have been disallowed for blatant knock-ons - which were referred to the video ref! Be honest, you would have all been very annoyed if such an incident had resulted in a Wigan try. Seems like you have had the benefit of the doubt (not that there was much doubt - it was a definite knock-on) yet again from the VR!'"
In what way was it a knock on, y the back clearly doesn't go forward
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| To be fair to Clarke he was gushing praise on Leeds after the hooter. Shows a bit of class there
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| Quote ="Fames"We are going on about the blatant knock-on to Leeds's second try. Déjà vu after what happened at Leeds when 2 of your tries should have been disallowed for blatant knock-ons - which were referred to the video ref! Be honest, you would have all been very annoyed if such an incident had resulted in a Wigan try. Seems like you have had the benefit of the doubt (not that there was much doubt - it was a definite knock-on) yet again from the VR!'"
Mcguire begins to lose the ball, then he propells it back with his thigh/knee. Wigan stopped, leeds played to the whistle. Ref referred it up as a try. No clear evidence to prove otherwise (one camera angle looks dodgy, other camera angle looks like it cleary goes back)......Fair try!
Wigan should have nailed it and shut the play down, but they all stopped. Powderpuff attempt on hardaker, no one else bothers to cover, stroll in for Moon.
Wigan can suck it, and suck it good.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Mcguire begins to lose the ball, then he propells it back with his thigh/knee. Wigan stopped, leeds played to the whistle. Ref referred it up as a try. No clear evidence to prove otherwise (one camera angle looks dodgy, other camera angle looks like it cleary goes back)......Fair try!
Wigan should have nailed it and shut the play down, but they all stopped. Powderpuff attempt on hardaker, no one else bothers to cover, stroll in for Moon.
Wigan can suck it, and suck it good.'"
We'd have been annoyed if that try was given against us, but whatever. In another incident, it was never a knock-on by McGuire after the Peacock offload that let Wigan back in it at the start of the second half.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"We'd have been annoyed if that try was given against us, but whatever. In another incident, it was never a knock-on by McGuire after the Peacock offload that let Wigan back in it at the start of the second half.'"
I'd have been mored annoyed our players had stopped and assumed a knock on would be given.
As the saying goes, you make your own luck. Leeds never gave up on the play which meant it got referred and they then had a chance of the 50/50 going our way.
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| In a lot of knock-ons that are given by referees, the ball actually ends up going backwards eventually. The ball moves forward from his hands. 90 -95% of the time the ref would blow up for a knock-on.
Leeds fans would have been equally annoyed if a similar incident had occurred with a Wigan player and the VR decision had been made in Wigan's favour.
I hope you are going to agree that you have had the benefit of any doubt more often than not in recent weeks with VR decisions.
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| Quote ="Fames"In a lot of knock-ons that are given by referees, the ball actually ends up going backwards eventually. The ball moves forward from his hands. 90 -95% of the time the ref would blow up for a knock-on.
Leeds fans would have been equally annoyed if a similar incident had occurred with a Wigan player and the VR decision had been made in Wigan's favour.
I hope you are going to agree that you have had the benefit of any doubt more often than not in recent weeks with VR decisions.'"
I was annoyed that Wigan got 2 points from a penalty when McIlorum just threw the ball at Watkins trying to avoid being in the way. A sh*t tactic that McIlorum has tried before.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"We'd have been annoyed if that try was given against us, but whatever. In another incident, it was never a knock-on by McGuire after the Peacock offload that let Wigan back in it at the start of the second half.'"
Fair enough if that was the case - on the field refs do make mistakes. And Leeds fans will no doubt quote the Wigan try from the DW game that Wigan won 26 - 24, that came after a blatant knock-on by Smith. That was an incorrect decision but could not be referred to the VR as it happened in back play.
The difference here is that the VR yet again came to a decision that the vast majority (90%?) would disagree with. This has happened a lot recently and, dare I say it, Leeds seem to have been the beneficiaries more often than not.
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| Quote ="Fames"Fair enough if that was the case - on the field refs do make mistakes. And Leeds fans will no doubt quote the Wigan try from the DW game that Wigan won 26 - 24, that came after a blatant knock-on by Smith. That was an incorrect decision but could not be referred to the VR as it happened in back play.
The difference here is that the VR yet again came to a decision that the vast majority (90%?) would disagree with. This has happened a lot recently and, dare I say it, Leeds seem to have been the beneficiaries more often than not.'"
Where exactly? Thing is if that try had been disallowed there is still no way you can state that was the reason Wigan lost. Anything literally anything could have happened....you cannot state that might not have inspired Leeds to go onto an even greater winning margin. It was far too early in the game.
Let us Leeds fans enjoy our sweet victory and I suggest you take time to lick your wounds. Wigan are a young team and they will be there or thereabouts next season. (They should get rid of Smith though...but please keep Club if only for his comedy kicks )
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| Very true what you say. Leeds have undoubtedly been the best team in SL 2015.
Also agree about Smith and have been saying this all year. And lots of fans on the Wigan forum are again saying SW has to give Rocky Hampshire a chance to form a half back partnership with Williams at SL level - they were excellent together from U16s -U19s.
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| Quote ="Fames"Very true what you say. Leeds have undoubtedly been the best team in SL 2015.
Also agree about Smith and have been saying this all year. And lots of fans on the Wigan forum are again saying SW has to give Rocky Hampshire a chance to form a half back partnership with Williams at SL level - they were excellent together from U16s -U19s.'"
Williams was superb for Wigan and so was Farrell.
On Phil Clarke...rewatching he puts in the most petulant bit of commentary after Leeds' third try. Everyone else saying what a good try it was, but Clarke ignoring that and focussing on it leaving a difficult kick and Sinfield not being a good kicker from the right touchline(!). He shut up for a good twenty minutes after Kev put his kick through the middle.
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| His pre-match conviction regarding a Wigan win was a huge gamble on his part. He'd just been shown up by Carney and the replay of his post Cas prediction. But he stuck on message about Wigan being a better "team" as opposed to a bunch of individuals like Leeds.
In fairness he made some not unreasonable observations and many "pundits" had Wigan for the win, but it is his almost religious enthusiasm to back against Leeds at any opportunity, and his willingness to go into extraordinary detail as to why they will fail (which ultimately turns out to be total bulls**t ) that sets him up on a podium all on his own. Ever hoping for the day he can, uncontrollable with excitement, shout at the top of his lungs "TOLD YOU!!!!!".
Not tonight Phil. Not tonight.
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| Actually, seeing as Jon Wells and Carney do all the intelligent match analysis and Clarke couldn't accurately predict sex in a brothel I'm assuming he's in line for Stevo's job end of next season.
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| Anyone know if Clarkey is ok tonight?
Sam Tomkins cuddling him to sleep?
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| Thank you for beating the pies tonight. The fact that they are whinging over an apparent knock on makes it sweeter. Last year, it was Lance's unconscious face that got in the way of Flower's fist that robbed them of a certain victory.
Dirty, cheating pies with their spud headed coach gettin their just desserts.
You deserve your title. You play the game in the right way. Enjoy!
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| Made himself look like a one-eyed pie muncher.
He was saying what he wanted to happen as an ex Wigan player.
Too biassed for a commentator. Sorry Phil!
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| Phil Clarke - "Leeds won't win another game this year"
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| Quote ="Joshheff90"Phil Clarke - "Leeds won't win another game this year"
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Then we go win three very intense games on the trot.Thanks for the motivational talk Phil
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| Compare him to Barrie, Terry.. hell even Carney and Wells and their is a huge difference.
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| Quote ="Emagdnim13"Compare him to Barrie, Terry.. hell even Carney and Wells and their is a huge difference.'"
What do you mean even? Carney and Wells are the only decent analytical commentators on the SKY RL coverage. Wells IMO head and shoulders above the rest.
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