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| These were shown in Monday's League Express.
One of the most telling ones related to Clarkson.
37 tackles, 0 misses.
Top tackler along with Sinfield who missed 2.
For Saints, Graham made 36 tackles with 3 misses.
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| Clarkson not missing a tackle makes you wonder how Cunningham scored and yet again raises a question about the relevance.
Can you earn a tackle credit that fails to prevent a score?
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| Didn't gardener make one carry?
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| Clarkson didn't miss the tackle on Cunnigham, he (& Burrow) just didn't do it effectively enough to prevent the try.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"Didn't gardener make one carry?'"
No, 1 tackle, he carried the ball 11 times, with 1 offload & 1 error.
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| Ryan Baileys attacking stats were good this week IMO.
120 metres with 15 carries.
What happened to Kylie though? 20m with 8 carries?
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Clarkson didn't miss the tackle on Cunnigham, he (& Burrow) just didn't do it effectively enough to prevent the try.'"
I agree, if you had to count failing to stop someone reaching over the line as a missed tackle it would get very complicated...for example what if you make a tackle but it isn't effective enough to prevent a match winning offload?!
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Ryan Baileys attacking stats were good this week IMO.
120 metres with 15 carries.
What happened to Kylie though? 20m with 8 carries?'"
Bailey stats compare very well to all the other props on the pitch, eg
Peacock 27 Tackles, 2 Missed, 25(!) Carries for 159 Metres
Bailey 24 Tackles, 2 Missed, 15 carries for 120 Metres
Graham 36 Tackles, 3 Missed, 19 Carries for 108 Metres
Hargreaves 26 Tackles, 5 Missed, 6 Carries for 38 Metres
I also think Graham's stats reflect what a good job Leeds did in targeting him - he had to work his off in defence and as a result had no where near his normal impact with the ball.
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| Graham again, in my opinion, was too focused with distribution rather than battering the ball up.
A couple of the passes he put out ended in a turn-over, so not a great result.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Graham again, in my opinion, was too focused with distribution rather than battering the ball up.
A couple of the passes he put out ended in a turn-over, so not a great result.'"
Not fit I don't think - looked incredibly sluggish in the defensive line. Him and Clough are reported to be out at the weekend (Graham back and Clough shoulder). Think Hargreaves is doubtful too. At least they won't be lonely in the stands with the rest of our broken players
At least Kyle might be back.
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| Kylie again was shocking IMO. He looks very unfit and seems to struggle to get back the 10 after every play the ball. And, as his stats prove he his carries are very ineffective. How Ambler isn't getting in the team before him is almost a disgrace at the moment.
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| Quote ="Omar Little"I agree, if you had to count failing to stop someone reaching over the line as a missed tackle it would get very complicated...for example what if you make a tackle but it isn't effective enough to prevent a match winning offload?!'"
Surely that wouldn't be a completed tackle and as such wouldn't count?
Is it a miss though?
You can prove anything with statistics. 77% of people know that.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Surely that wouldn't be a completed tackle and as such wouldn't count?
Is it a miss though?
You can prove anything with statistics. 77% of people know that.'"
Where the hell have you been?
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Surely that wouldn't be a completed tackle and as such wouldn't count?
Is it a miss though?
You can prove anything with statistics. 77% of people know that.'"
And where have you been young man?
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| I asked first. Answer me first!
Ner ner ner nerrrr.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Not fit I don't think - looked incredibly sluggish in the defensive line. Him and Clough are reported to be out at the weekend (Graham back and Clough shoulder). Think Hargreaves is doubtful too. At least they won't be lonely in the stands with the rest of our broken players
[uAt least Kyle might be back[/u.'"
Be surprised mate after the way he was limping round the Galpharm on saturday!
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| Quote ="El Diablo"You can prove anything with statistics. 77% of people know that.'"
Welcome back.
6 months stretch eh. You haven't missed much.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Ryan Baileys attacking stats were good this week IMO.
120 metres with 15 carries.
What happened to Kylie though? 20m with 8 carries?'"
Ryan was excellent with ball in hand.
Great aggression levels going into contact. Great stuff.
Kylie on the other hand looked a pale imitation of himself. As he was on the bench I'm presuming he wasn't 100%. Maybe would have been better to stand aside for the game. Ambler would have put himself about.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Kylie on the other hand looked a pale imitation of himself. '"
I would say he looked very much like himself - shattered after 15 minutes, not looking like breaking a tackle and throwing in attempted big hits that didn't come off.
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| A pity the player's efforts aren't included in cumulative stats that posters refer to online. As they ignore WCC, CC and P/O fixtures, this season for example at Leeds that could equate to over a third of the season's output.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I would say he looked very much like himself - shattered after 15 minutes, not looking like breaking a tackle and throwing in attempted big hits that didn't come off.'"
I dunno.
On his day he rattles bones.
Nowhere near that on Saturday.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"I dunno.
On his day he rattles bones.
Nowhere near that on Saturday.'"
I guess its a question of how many good days he has, and whether that is worth it for the bad ones. Similar situation to Keith IMO, although Keith's good days are a different level IMO
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I guess its a question of how many good days he has, and whether that is worth it for the bad ones. Similar situation to Keith IMO, although Keith's good days are a different level IMO'"
Uncle Keith is awesome.
Fact.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Uncle Keith is awesome SOMETIMES.
Fact.'"
Lets be right about it BB!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Lets be right about it BB!'"
tut-tut.
None believer.
Super League's Greatest Ever Centre.
Fact.
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